# CONCORD introduces the Dynamic Bounty System **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 23, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498 "2020-10-23T16:26:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![Axhind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/axhind/32/461932_2.png) [@Axhind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Axhind)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/789 "2020-10-25T16:19:54Z")
Ah yes. Being outnumbered 3:1 is a sure sign of ganking. We don’t go for small targets because it’s not fun. Our wars are always against large alliances/coalitions. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/790 "2020-10-25T16:23:31Z")
> [@Axhind](#): > > We don’t go for small targets because it’s not fun. Our wars are always against large alliances/coalitions. Stop, I feel I will die laughing. And you only take part in wars of course. The irony was the idea of bees admitting that farming \> fighting. Not so much the actual fact of it. More just the admission. You may continue. I just need a moment to catch my breath. ---
**Author:** ![Axhind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/axhind/32/461932_2.png) [@Axhind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Axhind)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/791 "2020-10-25T16:41:01Z")
We have never said that we are all about fighting. We fight when we want to fight, and then go for real opponents and rest of the time we build our empire. That’s why smart people don’t poke the bee’s nest. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/792 "2020-10-25T16:42:11Z")
> [@Axhind](#): > > We fight when we want to fight, and then go for real opponents you’re actually serious about this, aren’t you? lmao, you’re not just drinking the kool-aid, you’re swimming in it ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/793 "2020-10-25T16:49:49Z")
How the mighty have fallen ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/794 "2020-10-25T18:25:50Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Why do people keep assuming that CCP is dumb enough to make the bounty multiplier tied to the number of losses instead of the value of losses? People who don’t think beyond the first thought … … tend to end up in a state where they believe that’s the norm for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/795 "2020-10-25T18:27:12Z")
> [@Axhind](#): > > I don’t think so. Even CCP has figured out by now that their aim for screwing us over is so bad that it always hurts someone else far more. Excuse me, but … who are you? I feel like some context helps with understanding your point. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/796 "2020-10-25T18:31:38Z")
Check the comment he replied to, it provides the context. (Hint: he’s a Goon) ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/797 "2020-10-25T18:34:25Z")
I … don’t think so? > **[Pearl Abyss Q2 2020 Earnings Call](https://nosygamer.blogspot.com/2020/08/pearl-abyss-q2-2020-earnings-call.html)** > > Pearl Abyss held its Q2 2020 earnings presentation for investors yesterday. The main item that struck me was the declining financial numbers... ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/d/ed11df5a73ef0cab900e20eeeb40966e320fce32.png) ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/798 "2020-10-25T18:35:12Z")
As a director, how do you manage to deal with these kind of line members? ---
**Author:** ![Kellven\_Ve](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellven_ve/32/237118_2.png) [@Kellven\_Ve](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellven_Ve)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/799 "2020-10-25T18:47:52Z")
I didn’t realize CCP had been bought by PA, see what happens when you ignore a crapsack game for a decade. That really makes a lot of sense of things now, given what Perfect World did to Cryptic, PA setting EVE out to pasture as a Mobiletrash game supported by Twitch Shills and wrecking what little was working in the game to keep the Shills in business make sense. The appeal of EVE was always the unrealized potential of the game, but we always knew that was a battle we’d never win over CCP’s troll devs. It’s still a shame to see it left to die slowly by parasites like this though. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/800 "2020-10-25T19:48:17Z")
All that CCP is doing is nerfing _farmers_ and _carebears_. What kind of _unrealized potential_ are you even talking about?? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/801 "2020-10-25T20:24:54Z")
> [@Kellven\_Ve](#): > > didn’t realize CCP had been bought by PA, see what happens when you ignore a crapsack game for a decade claims to have ignored a game for 10 years > [@Kellven\_Ve](#): > > PA setting EVE out to pasture as a Mobiletrash game supported by Twitch Shills doesn’t even know that the “mobiletrash” game he’s talking about is developed by a completely different company and is only using the EVE Online IP and has nothing to do with EVE on Tranquility. > [@Kellven\_Ve](#): > > The appeal of EVE was always the unrealized potential of the game, but we always knew that was a battle we’d never win over CCP’s troll devs. It’s still a shame to see it left to die slowly by parasites like this though I don’t even know what he’s talking about here. kids have been saying “eve is dead” or “eve is dying” for 16 years now. why do kids these days engage in this kind of outrage porn? like, you don’t know what you’re talking about and you claim you’ve ignored the game for a decade. yet you are so mad and taking offense to this proposed change. like, did the forums become Tumblr where people just want to be mad for the sake of being mad? what’s going on?? ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/802 "2020-10-25T20:39:35Z")
> [@Axhind](#): > > That’s why smart people don’t poke the bee’s nest. Funny, we spent our first 3 or 4 years in EVE “poking” the bee’s nest. 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Axhind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/axhind/32/461932_2.png) [@Axhind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Axhind)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/803 "2020-10-25T21:03:08Z")
I did say smart people 😛 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/804 "2020-10-25T21:14:48Z")
Funny again since at least “most” of the time, you guys died well! 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/805 "2020-10-25T21:33:25Z")
Trust me, PA’s small decline over this last year (largely attributable to general stress levels and ennui during the COVID crisis) does not impact their strategy WRT purchasing a company on the other side of the planet with a niche product and an _extremely_ eager-to-please national government. You don’t see the Prime Minister of Japan making videos for EverQuest, do you? > [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > As a director, how do you manage to deal with these kind of line members? What kind? Axhind’s just a dude, man. He’s not being at all unreasonable, he doesn’t cause trouble… No clue what you’re talking about. > [@Kellven\_Ve](#): > > PA setting EVE out to pasture as a Mobiletrash game supported by Twitch Shills and wrecking what little was working in the game to keep the Shills in business make sense. _BZZZZZT_. CCP pioneered MMO microtransactions w/PLEX sales before even the Koreans were really doing it. PA isn’t putting EVE out to pasture at all w/Echoes. CCP is using Echoes as a way to keep their IP relevant and easily-marketed, and getting their Chinese (not Korean) partner Netease to do all the work _for_ them. Nor is PA being ‘parasitic’ at all. They shoved an extra $250M or so in bonuses into CCP’s pockets that they didn’t have to, and put EVE back in the ownership of people who actually _want to be making computer games_. Prior to that, CCP had been owned by a bunch of Venture Capitalists for close to ten years, including real estate developers and bank managers in the UK and Iceland—folks who really wanted _nothing_ to do with computer games, but needed someplace safe to hide their money after the 2007-2008 financial crisis. Those VCs, btw? They’re the reason _absolutely nothing got done on the World of Darkness IP for those ten years_. Seriously. CCP tried to do World of Darkness, but when that got cannibalized, that was basically it. Imagine you’ve got the IP for a AAA+ title like _Vampire: the Masquerade—Bloodlines_… **and you do nothing with it. FOR A DECADE.** CCP sold White Wolf off to Paradox… because after a decade of not letting them do anything with it, the VCs made the money guys sell off the IP and the company name rights so they could slim CCP down to make it attractive to potential buyers. Also going to Paradox with that deal, btw: the licensing for the pen & paper World of Darkness, Chronicles of Darkness (aka ‘New’ World of Darkness), Scarred Lands, and basically every other long-term licensing deal White Wolf/CCP had had for their various IPs. Literally ‘this is making us money for doing nothing’, but because the VCs were looking to divest, that all got sold to Paradox. (Who, thank God, spun off White Wolf into its own P&P company again, run by people who love the IP, and said ‘we’re gonna make computer games because we know how the ■■■■ to do that!’) PA has, instead, shoved a truckload of money at CCP, and told Hilmar to follow his heart. In other words, all this crap that’s been happening since the sale went final in 2018? It’s all _Hilmar_. Every last bit of it. His vision. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/806 "2020-10-25T21:37:24Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > eager-to-please national government. Off topic, but is CCP still .05% of Iceland’s GNP? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/807 "2020-10-25T21:38:14Z")
Dunno. Could use the PA earnings statements to estimate it, but I haven’t bothered. Ok, so, I just bothered. Using the EVE Online numbers from the PA Earnings statement, and converting 56.4 billion KRW to USD gives us $49.98 million. Iceland’s 2019 GNP is $26.32 billion. Which, if my math is right, means EVE Online’s revenue was 0.19% of Iceland’s GNP in 2019? Mind you, CCP’s not just in Iceland, so I have no idea how much of that would be reflected there, but… yeah. Iceland’s a tiny place, and a global tech product like EVE is actually big deal for them. A company making that percentage of the US GNP would be a company pulling in just under $41 billion, or about 1/3 the size of General Motors (or about 80% the size of Lockheed-Martin). ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/808 "2020-10-25T21:57:05Z")
🤣 I didn’t mean for you to do the math, but thanks! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498.md?page=37) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498.md?page=39)