# CONCORD introduces the Dynamic Bounty System **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 23, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498 "2020-10-23T16:26:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 51
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1062 "2020-10-30T22:43:40Z")
> [@Alexa\_Kerensky](#): > > — Align to MESS, which is just 314.000 km away… did you align to the ESS or to the warp beacon? ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1063 "2020-10-30T23:04:03Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > did you align to the ESS or to the warp beacon? Beacon is only visible on grid. 314000km is too far. > [@Raw\_Matters](#): > > but if I ever see like 50% or worse Due to MESS taking 50% you can safely assume 50% to be the **highest** you’ll ever see. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1064 "2020-10-30T23:22:37Z")
Weren’t you supposed to be blocking me? tsk tsk. Can’t trust a _thing_ you say, can we? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1065 "2020-10-30T23:25:49Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > the person, by their own words, values the reward from the activity far more than the activity itself. Or they consider the reward to be part of the activity. Just because _you_ don’t, that doesn’t mean they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1066 "2020-10-30T23:48:23Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Or they consider the reward to be part of the activity. They can consider it all the want but they’re wrong. The reward for doing X is separate from X itself. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1067 "2020-10-31T00:04:01Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > but they’re wrong Again and again and again… In **your** opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1068 "2020-10-31T00:17:51Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > In **your** opinion In fact. No amount of screaming “IN YOUR OPINION!!!” is going to make 1+1=2. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1069 "2020-10-31T00:19:07Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Again and again and again… In **your** opinion. > **[entitled](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/entitled)** > > 1. feeling that you have the right to do or have what you want without having… “my opinion is fact”. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1070 "2020-10-31T00:19:32Z")
Or you could stop arguing about semantics and get back on topic. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1071 "2020-10-31T00:19:50Z")
Here it comes! 😭 Edit; He beat me to it. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1072 "2020-10-31T05:07:24Z")
without nicolai we are defenseless agains critical andersen 😨 ---
**Author:** ![Joseph\_Panacan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/joseph_panacan/32/461889_2.png) [@Joseph\_Panacan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Joseph_Panacan)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1073 "2020-10-31T06:19:02Z")
Hi ISD Dorrim, may I ask about whether there will be a detailed article about the exact details of the DBS sometime? That’d be good if we can see it before DBS goes live. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1074 "2020-10-31T06:32:32Z")
> [@Joseph\_Panacan](#): > > may I ask about whether there will be a detailed article about the exact details of the DBS sometime? It’s called a dev blog. What exact details are you wanting to see? The numbers are unlikely to be locked in stone even once it goes live. ---
**Author:** ![Joseph\_Panacan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/joseph_panacan/32/461889_2.png) [@Joseph\_Panacan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Joseph_Panacan)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1075 "2020-10-31T06:36:43Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > What exact details are you wanting to see? for example, what’s the upper and lower bound of the DBS upper is 130%, but where the lower bound is is uncertain and debated over. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1076 "2020-10-31T06:38:29Z")
> [@Joseph\_Panacan](#): > > what’s the upper and lower bound of the DBS > upper is 130%, but where the lower bound is is uncertain and debated over. See what I said above. This isn’t going to be a set in stone thing, CCP will tune the numbers over time in response to player behaviour and impact on the game. So, we can go ‘What will it be on patch day’ which last I heard datamining numbers was 30% & 120%. But that doesn’t mean those will be the numbers in a months time. The numbers are very easy to change once the system is in place. ---
**Author:** ![Joseph\_Panacan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/joseph_panacan/32/461889_2.png) [@Joseph\_Panacan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Joseph_Panacan)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1077 "2020-10-31T06:42:18Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > which last I heard datamining numbers was 30% & 120%. On test server it’s 130% for M-OEE8, so the higher bound seems to be off for sure. I’m not asking for a “future proof” devblog or something, I just want to make out of the details and plan ahead a bit. Stuff changes, I know, but I hope that’s at least put in patch notes and stuff, preferably in a devblog that’s published around 1 week before update goes live ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1078 "2020-10-31T06:43:05Z")
Don’t worry, the pre-patch final devblogs will be available on November 21. ---
**Author:** ![AbuJana\_Ohu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abujana_ohu/32/282195_2.png) [@AbuJana\_Ohu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AbuJana_Ohu)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1080 "2020-10-31T09:27:10Z")
For my personal health I do some running over the course of the week. I don’t enjoy running and the sweating BUT I enjoy the “reaching a goal” in the end. So I should stop running because its only the goal to reach the destination? Sorry, but motivation works not like that. If someone enjoys the “work” of ratting with a carrier (which at least I cannot do afk) and says that the payout should at least stay above 50% of now … that is motivation. Why should I do something without having the possibility to reach something I deem a “reward”? As it stands now … The MESS will collect the money in the differant “banks”, one can be easily accessed by the usual beggar-scums, too lazy to do the actual work, the other one will payout in some mysterious way not even know to CCP (aka self proclaimed game designers). Only thing known is that some key is needed to get the money but not where to get that key nor how much it will cost you … With all this uncertainty you wonder that people vote with their wallet like they did in “Blackout”? Well, I will certainly do so and stay in the background and wait as I did when last time the “game designers” had their funny blackout. ---
**Author:** ![AbuJana\_Ohu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abujana_ohu/32/282195_2.png) [@AbuJana\_Ohu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AbuJana_Ohu)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1081 "2020-10-31T09:35:17Z")
Just plain stupid … sorry,but at least two people argued with you with logical arguments and you still behave like a childish brain-afk zombie … just another forum-troll ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498/1082 "2020-10-31T10:58:41Z")
> [@AbuJana\_Ohu](#): > > I don’t enjoy running and the sweating BUT I enjoy the “reaching a goal” in the end. But shouldnt the objective of a game be to have fun? Im told thats why people do sports; They enjoy the act of doing the “work”. Now, theres certainly a place to say that someone might enjoy sitting stationary doing nothing as the isk comes in, but thats really the crux of this whole shebang; People arent annoyed that CCP is making the activity less fun, they are annoyed that they arent getting rewarded for doing an activity that (as you say) is no fun to begin with. CCP: please make the actual playing of EvE entertaining. Right now, its duller than its ever been and unless the actual playing of the game is made at least slightly less tedious, I cant imagine this situation improving. I mean, the slew of sudden sales alone after unpopular choices of action should make it obvious that changing the rewards up or down doesnt make any of the hoops you need to jump through to feel like you are getting anywhere any more fun to do. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498.md?page=50) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-introduces-the-dynamic-bounty-system/275498.md?page=52)