# CONCORD Standings with pirate epic arc missions

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**Category:** Missions\
**Created:** [March 17, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-standings-with-pirate-epic-arc-missions/354160 "2022-03-17T13:00:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Katana\_Masen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katana_masen/32/471330_2.png) [@Katana\_Masen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katana_Masen)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-standings-with-pirate-epic-arc-missions/354160/1 "2022-03-17T13:00:31Z")

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I think I know it correctly, but wanna make it clear.  
Two questions.

1. When I get positive standings from pirate factions, I lose concord standings as a derived modifications.
2. Pirate epic arc ( Angel, Guristas, and Syndicate/Sansha branches off from empire epic arc missions ) will not cause a derived standing modification, thereby not losing CONCORD standings by achieving them.

Am I right ?

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-standings-with-pirate-epic-arc-missions/354160/2 "2022-03-17T14:39:36Z")

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correct for 2.

I made pirat epics several times, never lost ss.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_Shasta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duke_shasta/32/495942_2.png) [@Duke\_Shasta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duke_Shasta)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-standings-with-pirate-epic-arc-missions/354160/3 "2022-03-19T01:12:53Z")

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No derived standings, yep. However, I think the last mission for the Angel arc is to kill a Concord frigate, so that might cause a standings hit with CONCORD.

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**Author:** ![Katana\_Masen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katana_masen/32/471330_2.png) [@Katana\_Masen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katana_Masen)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-standings-with-pirate-epic-arc-missions/354160/4 "2022-03-20T22:31:30Z")

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Do you mean the old Security Status ( = Old Concord standings ) ?

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**Author:** ![Katana\_Masen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katana_masen/32/471330_2.png) [@Katana\_Masen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katana_Masen)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-standings-with-pirate-epic-arc-missions/354160/5 "2022-03-20T22:33:07Z")

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Thank you for the answer.  
That’s too bad it’d hit with CONCORD standings on mission progress but was good to know it doesn’t cause derived standing changes.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concord-standings-with-pirate-epic-arc-missions/354160/6 "2022-06-18T22:34:07Z")

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