# CONFIRMED BY CCP: As predicted, the new gates are functionally inevitable

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/confirmed-by-ccp-as-predicted-the-new-gates-are-functionally-inevitable/313373>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 25, 2021, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/confirmed-by-ccp-as-predicted-the-new-gates-are-functionally-inevitable/313373 "2021-05-25T11:56:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/confirmed-by-ccp-as-predicted-the-new-gates-are-functionally-inevitable/313373/41 "2021-05-27T05:27:14Z")

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It will only be visible in the character portrait.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/confirmed-by-ccp-as-predicted-the-new-gates-are-functionally-inevitable/313373/42 "2021-05-27T06:07:03Z")

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> [@JayEm\_HighCastle](#):
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> _ **WHY** _ are these new gates considered such a bad thing?
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> No one is forcing you to use them.

gates have impact on things that are not visible in the game.

eg trade streams, exploration routes, alternate ways, isolation of systems/constellations/regions. And for this last part I hate this change, because it makes some constellations (minmatar ones) less isolated, and at the same time less valuable for other non disclosed reasons.

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**Author:** ![Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xiombarg_ohmsford/32/172425_2.png) [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xiombarg_Ohmsford)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/confirmed-by-ccp-as-predicted-the-new-gates-are-functionally-inevitable/313373/43 "2021-05-27T08:33:34Z")

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Looking forward to renting out my own private sandbox, nod nod wink wink CCP. These gate changes really open up my area of empire space, quietly thrilled.

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**Author:** ![Azalais\_Selenica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azalais_selenica/32/354085_2.png) [@Azalais\_Selenica](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azalais_Selenica)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/confirmed-by-ccp-as-predicted-the-new-gates-are-functionally-inevitable/313373/44 "2021-05-27T08:57:26Z")

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> [@JayEm\_HighCastle](#):
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> I’m seeing the point that EVE is supposed to be “the sandbox” and having a predetermined outcome breaks that paradigm.

What hubrus maketh think a few eggers could steer the course of Empires

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/confirmed-by-ccp-as-predicted-the-new-gates-are-functionally-inevitable/313373/45 "2021-05-27T09:00:21Z")

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Lol the idea that its about the event being already predetermined is funny.

Its about getting you hungry for Mining Boosters

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**Author:** ![Elenahina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elenahina/32/307923_2.png) [@Elenahina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elenahina)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/confirmed-by-ccp-as-predicted-the-new-gates-are-functionally-inevitable/313373/46 "2021-05-27T10:50:34Z")

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And tears and salt are, as always, free.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/confirmed-by-ccp-as-predicted-the-new-gates-are-functionally-inevitable/313373/47 "2021-05-27T13:21:35Z")

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Salts CCP harvest itself are free.

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**Author:** ![Maltam\_Khurelem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maltam_khurelem/32/395719_2.png) [@Maltam\_Khurelem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maltam_Khurelem)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/confirmed-by-ccp-as-predicted-the-new-gates-are-functionally-inevitable/313373/48 "2021-05-27T13:32:26Z")

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At least no one is whining about walking in stations and stupidly priced monocles anymore. I miss those days.

Wasn’t that the time that CCP were great and didn’t spit in the face of their players? Or was it even before then?

I’m getting confused about when people were actually happy about anything CCP did.

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**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/confirmed-by-ccp-as-predicted-the-new-gates-are-functionally-inevitable/313373/49 "2021-05-27T14:02:03Z")

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> [@Hariet](#):
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> Yeah, saw that on reddit. Something to do with LPs only being good for shoes and clothes? I assumed when the CCP Dev said a 400% increase in payout (compared with RW) they meant isk from participation and bounties. But I dont know enough to comment on how true that might be.

man, is this true? all you get is clothes from the event?

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**Author:** ![Nascent3ch0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nascent3ch0/32/374213_2.png) [@Nascent3ch0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nascent3ch0)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/confirmed-by-ccp-as-predicted-the-new-gates-are-functionally-inevitable/313373/50 "2021-05-27T14:48:13Z")

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> [@Maltam\_Khurelem](#):
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> I’m getting confused about when people were actually happy about anything CCP did.

I’m very happy about the indy and mining changes so far, since they serve to stimulate the economy and give access to newer indy minded players. Also, if the cloaking changes go in as advertised I like those too!

The point is, yes CCP can sometimes hit the mark. _SOMETIMES._

Xeux said somewhere he’s sad CCP doesn’t get what makes their own game great. It’s starting to look more and more like that might be the case, at least in part.

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**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/confirmed-by-ccp-as-predicted-the-new-gates-are-functionally-inevitable/313373/51 "2021-05-27T18:10:31Z")

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> [@Mutall\_Qryo](#):
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> I do say however,that A) almost every recent change seems be aimed at maxing out profit for CCP and PA, not making the game any better or more fun,

Welcome to how businesses operate, everything they do is to try and make as much money as possible, CCP hasn’t been trying to make a “fun” game for a very long time, they have always had investors to deal with, it just got worse when they were acquired as they are now entirely under the thumb of an overlord

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**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/confirmed-by-ccp-as-predicted-the-new-gates-are-functionally-inevitable/313373/52 "2021-05-29T15:41:34Z")

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More gates is okay, can’t have too many of those in space. The event, blah… I gain more without participating. My time is worth more.

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**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2021, 3:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/confirmed-by-ccp-as-predicted-the-new-gates-are-functionally-inevitable/313373/53 "2021-05-30T03:55:41Z")

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If ships could dial in and do a system to system warp/dead space/hyper space/hyperwarp/dimensional shift/go into 2 dimensional space to travel (Some of you will know this reference)/ludicrous speed like in every other genre, we would not need gates, and “hunting” with combat and deep space probes would separate the Chad PVPers from the virgin gate campers.

But noooooo. So we get to have this stupid argument instead.  
Cue the “everything happens at gates” virgins.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 3:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/confirmed-by-ccp-as-predicted-the-new-gates-are-functionally-inevitable/313373/54 "2021-08-28T03:56:23Z")

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