# Consentual PvP as it should be in a free world **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [March 5, 2024, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836 "2024-03-05T02:49:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/41 "2024-03-05T15:55:39Z")
Meh…all Eve _really_ needs is to remove the flowery background music and replace it with something that reminds people they are either predator _o_r prey… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/c/3/dc3da8c67abc7aea5db1321377ed5da11c2cfe8c.jpeg "Das Boot") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xq5uc1ssn0) ---
**Author:** ![Nasty\_Shrimp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasty_shrimp/32/413217_2.png) [@Nasty\_Shrimp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasty_Shrimp)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/42 "2024-03-05T15:55:43Z")
nice to see, that some people have already started discussing here. makes me happy ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/43 "2024-03-05T16:40:09Z")
> [@Nasty\_Shrimp](#): > > Hello! > > This is my first thread, so be nice. > > I had the brilliant idea, that there could be a pop-up if someone in space is trying to attack you. And if you do not allow it, he can’t do anything. > > I think that would make my mining adventures way better and also more safe. > > Any thoughts on this? I think that would destroy the reason why I started playing EvE in the first place. Why are you trying to destroy the thing that made EvE special when practically every other MMO that has PVP only has consensual PVP? (edited to add, ahh man, you got me Nasty Shrimp.) ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/44 "2024-03-05T17:13:19Z")
> [@Nasty\_Shrimp](#): > > I had the brilliant idea, no it wasnt your idea … > [@Nasty\_Shrimp](#): > > that there could be a pop-up another popup ? oO we already have to much of them ! > [@Nasty\_Shrimp](#): > > if someone in space is trying to attack you. And if you do not allow it, he can’t do anything. i will bring up 2 options for your “opt out pvp button” 1. as soon as you “opt out pvp” then youre not able to generate ISK in any form ! all of your loot will have a flag “Opt Out Loot not able to Sell” ( this includes your mining loot ( ice / ore ) ! loot from wrecks ! all mission item rewards ! all loot drops from DeD and hacking sites ! ) 2. you accept that you accept PvP as soon as you undock ! > [@Nasty\_Shrimp](#): > > more safe. exactly this is nothing that eve needs ! we all need less saftey and not more ! lern to play and then you (almost) never get killd if you dont want it ! ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/45 "2024-03-05T17:13:49Z")
New threads about consensual PvP should be consensual. CCPlease ! /sarcasm for OP: you consented to pvp by downloading this game ---
**Author:** ![Nasty\_Shrimp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasty_shrimp/32/413217_2.png) [@Nasty\_Shrimp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasty_Shrimp)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/46 "2024-03-05T17:26:30Z")
wow! you are some tough folks… ☹ i just want to have fun and you are trying to make my experience feel dangerous and ugly. big dislike to both of you (Vuhdo looks astonishingly similar to sambo… hmmmmm) ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/47 "2024-03-05T17:56:28Z")
On a non-troll direction, I would like a controlled PvP environment where newer players, such as myself, can practice actual PvP combat mechanics without getting scrapped. Some kind of 1v1/5v5 arena thing. ---
**Author:** ![Nasty\_Shrimp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasty_shrimp/32/413217_2.png) [@Nasty\_Shrimp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasty_Shrimp)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/48 "2024-03-05T18:03:57Z")
just pack a frigate or destroyer and go to a lowsec sytem with a lot of pvp kills on zkill. you will learn how to pick fights and you will be ambushed… but that is the game. aometimes you win, sometimes you lose ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/49 "2024-03-05T18:13:56Z")
> [@Done25](#): > > Some kind of 1v1/5v5 arena thing. we already had an arena ! CCP decide its ■■■■ and they killed this kind of PvP ! if you want to train your pvp skills then take a ship and look for any targets ! you will lern what happen if you die or win ! ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/50 "2024-03-05T18:30:28Z")
A controlled 1v1 arena is vastly different to jumping into a 1v5 low sec Praxis gate camp. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/51 "2024-03-05T18:35:33Z")
> [@Done25](#): > > A controlled 1v1 arena is vastly different to jumping into a 1v5 low sec Praxis gate camp but THIS is the reality ! just lern the things you can find in this game and not how you would like them ! ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/52 "2024-03-05T18:49:35Z")
**‘Consentual PvP as it should be in a free world’** I do not consent to reading such nonsense. I want a ‘this is a load of nonsense…do you consent to reading it ?’ window that pops up. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/53 "2024-03-05T18:54:34Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > ‘Consentual PvP as it should be in a free world’ so you wanna say … a game that is a pure PvP game from HS to NS and youre creating an account and char is nonconsentual ? Oo > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > I do not consent to reading such nonsense. then you should stop writing xD → flag income 😛 > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > I want a ‘this is a load of nonsense…do you consent to reading it ?’ window that pops up. would like to see such because your posts will have this popup 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/54 "2024-03-05T18:56:44Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > so you wanna say… No…I’m quoting the title of the thread. Do keep up. Darn it…we need a ‘this person is quoting the title of the thread’ popup. And one for sarcasm. ’ Do you consent to sarcasm in your posts ?’ ---
**Author:** ![Nasty\_Shrimp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasty_shrimp/32/413217_2.png) [@Nasty\_Shrimp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasty_Shrimp)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/55 "2024-03-05T18:58:04Z")
this thread is no nonsense at all. i am truly interested in oppinions on this. other than: eve is hard, uninstall if you don’t like it i mean sure, that also is an oppinion. but after you said it one, maybe two times, it is heard and okay. i want some constructive debate here. not chatwarriors trying to show how smart they are ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/56 "2024-03-05T18:59:24Z")
> [@Nasty\_Shrimp](#): > > this thread is no nonsense at all. I did not consent to you disagreeing. ---
**Author:** ![Nasty\_Shrimp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasty_shrimp/32/413217_2.png) [@Nasty\_Shrimp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasty_Shrimp)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/57 "2024-03-05T19:00:45Z")
yes okay. but what i mean is, what might it lead to, if such a mechanic would be implemented? what do you guys think would be the result? that is what interests me, not that you think it is stupid. but why you think it is stupid and please no answers in the manner of: cause eve is PvP a little bit more elaborate would be nice ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/58 "2024-03-05T19:02:01Z")
> [@Nasty\_Shrimp](#): > > i just want to have fun and you are trying to make my experience feel dangerous and ugly. We’re having fun. Why are you not having fun ?! It’s a sandbox, you make it fun. And New Eden is supposed to be dangerous and gloomy - says CCP ! They know, they made the bloody game. On the other hand, having 3 highly active threads from hisec eve wannabe’s about pvp/ganking/consent, is that a “lucky” coincidence or just a coordinated push ? Loud, wrong and destructive in more than one way. > [@Nasty\_Shrimp](#): > > This is my first thread, so be nice. What makes you think your thread is special, let alone necessary ? Why not simply make your feelings known in one of a _vast number of similar threads on the same subject_ ? Why don’t you play nice on the forums, and not make your own thread about how you don’t accept the game for what it is and is meant to be ? ---
**Author:** ![Nasty\_Shrimp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasty_shrimp/32/413217_2.png) [@Nasty\_Shrimp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasty_Shrimp)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/59 "2024-03-05T19:03:40Z")
yes i get it, you are hard, i am weak ---
**Author:** ![Nasty\_Shrimp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasty_shrimp/32/413217_2.png) [@Nasty\_Shrimp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasty_Shrimp)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consentual-pvp-as-it-should-be-in-a-free-world/441836/60 "2024-03-05T19:04:07Z")
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