# ♦ Consolidating Threads

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 8, 2022, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907 "2022-01-08T15:17:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wal-mart_greeter/32/303152_2.png) [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wal-Mart_Greeter)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/22 "2022-01-10T15:31:58Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> help other members of this community

Fair enough. I try to be here for our community. Here is my fitting:

> **Summary**
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> [Rattlesnake, FOB’s]  
> Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay  
> Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay  
> Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay  
> Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay  
> Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay  
> Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay
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> Republic Fleet Shield Recharger  
> Republic Fleet Shield Recharger  
> Republic Fleet Shield Recharger  
> Republic Fleet Shield Recharger  
> Pithum A-Type EM Shield Amplifier  
> Pithum A-Type EM Shield Amplifier  
> Pithum A-Type Thermal Shield Amplifier
> 
> Torpedo Launcher II  
> Torpedo Launcher II  
> Torpedo Launcher II  
> Torpedo Launcher II  
> Torpedo Launcher II  
> Drone Link Augmentor II
> 
> Large Core Defense Field Purger II  
> Large Core Defense Field Purger II  
> Large Core Defense Field Purger II
> 
> Hobgoblin II x5  
> Hammerhead II x5  
> Ogre II x4
> 
> Inferno Rage Torpedo x10000  
> Inferno Javelin Torpedo x5000

I have the following implants:

> **Summary**
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> 01 Mid-grade Nirvana Alpha  
> 02 Mid-grade Nirvana Beta  
> 03 Mid-grade Nirvana Gamma  
> 04 Mid-grade Nirvana Delta  
> 05 Mid-grade Nirvana Epsilon  
> 06 Mid-grade Nirvana Omega  
> 07 Zainou ‘Gnome’ Shield Management SM-703  
> 08 Zainou ‘Deadeye’ Guided Missile Precision GP-803  
> 09 Zainou ‘Gnome’ Shield Operation SP-903  
> 10 Zainou ‘Deadeye’ Rapid Launch RL-1003

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/23 "2022-01-10T18:39:47Z")

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Well, that’s one hell of a passive tank you got there, using short range Torps definitely put’s you right in the middle of the Hornet’s nest.

I’m not familiar with FOB’s or the EWAR associated with them but wouldn’t doing ‘Kite’ action from like 100km with long range Cruise Missiles help reduce incoming DPS and EWAR? The fit might not need to be 100% Cap stable if you maintain distance from the Rat Pack with a MJD mod. Maybe replace some of the Shield Power Relays with some BCS mods to increase Missile DPS. A Damage Control mod would definitely help increase your EHP’s / Resistance stats without affecting Cap.

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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/24 "2022-01-10T18:45:31Z")

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The FOB tower itself neuts very heavily (at least until it caps itself out) I haven’t come across any solo boat that can survive with an active fit. You are capped out within moments and then the defense fleet kills you.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/25 "2022-01-10T19:07:22Z")

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Well, I didn’t say anything about having an active tank. Guess a MJD is an active mod when it’s on but it doesn’t perma-run…

None of the mods in the fit does anything for Cap. They’re all strictly shield regeneration, definitely needed due to parking right next to the FOB / Rat Pack spawn point. I’m sure having higher shield resistance would definitely help reduce incoming damage.

Anyway, guess it doesn’t really matter since he currently has a fit that works…

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**Author:** ![Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wal-mart_greeter/32/303152_2.png) [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wal-Mart_Greeter)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/26 "2022-01-10T20:52:12Z")

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Don’t try to solo these FOB’s.

If the hauler comes in after you’re already disrupted it will spawn a wave that’s impossible to tank. There are just too many factors involved. CCP wants us to use fleets. Plain and simple.

I give up.

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**Author:** ![Adm\_Malkaviano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adm_malkaviano/32/496610_2.png) [@Adm\_Malkaviano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adm_Malkaviano)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/27 "2022-01-10T21:28:49Z")

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> [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](#):
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> I give up.

NO! You come back there with an alt fleet and do it!

Like CCP wanted! Like a pro!

You did not failed, you discovered a way of not succeeding. Keep trying.

o7

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/28 "2022-01-10T22:05:09Z")

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> [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](#):
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> Don’t try to solo these FOB’s.

I saw a kill mail of a FOB with a solo Paladin, I was like WTF…, that fit must be special and a half. I mailed you the killmail in game because it is not fair to expose this to everyone .

However I am not sure that this was a true solo because you have to have another account that keeps the hauler spawn occupied. Still impressive, would like to play with this myself on SISI…

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**Author:** ![Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wal-mart_greeter/32/303152_2.png) [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wal-Mart_Greeter)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/29 "2022-01-10T22:41:37Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I saw a kill mail of a FOB with a solo

I’ve killed at least a dozen solo. One ship, one account. (Hauler alt) The problem is, the FOB’s that I’ve killed aren’t worth the ships I’ve lost. Not even close. 3 x 1.7b = 5.1b. Realistically, I only make about 100m on each FOB.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/30 "2022-01-10T22:59:28Z")

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I sorta remember seeing a post basically saying you attack the Hauler when it’s in the belt, it’ll warp off to a safe spot and you warp out while the Hauler spawn warps in, then you scan down the Hauler in it’s safe spot, warp to it, kill it and bookmark the wreck, then go attack the FOB…

EDIT:  
Or maybe it was just for the regular Mining Fleets, can’t remember exactly which one it was…

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**Author:** ![Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wal-mart_greeter/32/303152_2.png) [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wal-Mart_Greeter)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/31 "2022-01-13T05:02:20Z")

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The hauler is fine…I think shooting it was a mistake.

Is this information out there somewhere?

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**Author:** ![grimaxemorpher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grimaxemorpher/32/393346_2.png) [@grimaxemorpher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/grimaxemorpher)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/32 "2022-01-13T05:23:43Z")

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You want to kill the hauler if it indocks in from the fob you will get a double spawn

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/33 "2022-01-13T05:58:00Z")

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I think the Hauler is supposed to be attacked when it’s in the belt, making it warp to a safe spot while a reinforcement fleet warps in. Guess when the Hauler warps to the safe spot, that’s the time to warp out and attack the FOB, then the Hauler won’t show up and call in it’s own fleet.

Anyway, I don’t exactly know for sure, just vaguely remember reading a post about it. A google search should hopefully produce more info. This Uniwiki link gives a little info about FOB’s.

[https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Forward\_Operating\_Base](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Forward_Operating_Base)

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/34 "2022-01-13T06:09:41Z")

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If the hauler sees you on grid with negative standings, it spawns a defense spawn regardless whether you shoot it or not.

![REDNES](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/6/5/96524d53cb22e8d34dff925203908c55729b363e.png)

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**Author:** ![Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wal-mart_greeter/32/303152_2.png) [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wal-Mart_Greeter)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/35 "2022-01-13T14:37:57Z")

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> [@grimaxemorpher](#):
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> You want to kill the hauler

> [@grimaxemorpher](#):
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> will get a double spawn

I’m trying to avoid the double spawn. I can’t tank it.

> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#):
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> If the hauler sees you on grid

I’ve been able to find Blood Raider Ventures (Blue) in the belt but not a hauler so far.

I think I need to spend more time hunting the hauler BEFORE I start shooting the FOB.

> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> I think the Hauler is supposed to be attacked when it’s in the belt

This seems to be right.

 ![Eve BR Ventures](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/6/6/066e00d083882a87dda1e21612c26eed353256c3.png)

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**Author:** ![Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wal-mart_greeter/32/303152_2.png) [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wal-Mart_Greeter)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/37 "2022-01-13T17:27:55Z")

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Please start posting here: [♦ Still Need Help Figuring Out How to Survive Bashing FOB's](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-need-help-figuring-out-how-to-survive-bashing-fobs/344127)

Just trying to consolidate two threads with the same subject.

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**Author:** ![Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wal-mart_greeter/32/303152_2.png) [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wal-Mart_Greeter)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/38 "2022-01-13T17:51:14Z")

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> [@Princess\_Sairan](#):
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> sounds too good to be true?

Lots of good information. Thanks!!!

> [@diamond\_suit Still Need Help Figuring Out How to Survive Bashing FOB's](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-need-help-figuring-out-how-to-survive-bashing-fobs/344127):
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> Does anyone have a good Ikitursa fitting for killing the Blood Raider FOB spawn (out of tower range)? diamonds Need Help Bashing Forward Operating Bases diamonds I’ve lost a few nice Rattlesnakes trying to figure this out. Any help would be great. [https://zkillboard.com/group/1924/](https://zkillboard.com/group/1924/)pirate_flagparrot No pirates!!! parrotpirate_flag

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**Author:** ![Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wal-mart_greeter/32/303152_2.png) [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wal-Mart_Greeter)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/40 "2022-01-13T17:58:35Z")

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> [@Princess\_Sairan](#):
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> that myrmidon fit

Sorry, I edited my last post after I noticed the fitting.

I did mean the Myrmidon.

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**Author:** ![Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wal-mart_greeter/32/303152_2.png) [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wal-Mart_Greeter)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/42 "2022-01-13T18:23:00Z")

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> [@Princess\_Sairan](#):
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> sounds too good to be true?

Lots of good information. Thanks!

❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/consolidating-threads/344907/43 "2022-04-13T18:23:39Z")

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