# Continued Scarcity **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 19, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536 "2022-01-19T15:33:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/188 "2022-01-22T22:33:19Z")
> [@Leggone\_Stracks](#): > > I’ve wondered, since catalysts seem the be the most common for gank swarms, if emphasizing kinetic and thermal in your tank wouldn’t be a good anti-gank thing. Praise James 315 for inventing the Ship Scanner, so that guesswork is no longer needed when deciding on what ships to use against a target. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/189 "2022-01-22T22:40:19Z")
> [@Aida\_Aragon](#): > > It’s not about my opinion on whether they are too slow or not , it’s about the fact it takes time for them to respond , as it should , leaving a window of opportunity for people to exploit . > > There’s a loophole in that system of punishment that allows people to commit piracy , that’s all I’m saying and reasonably yes there should be. Yes, its your opinion. Its also factually wrong. There is no loophole. Are you ESL? Cause I feel like you don’t really understand what loophole means. > [@Aida\_Aragon](#): > > Wow you gankers really are adverse to the window of opportunity provided by response times as a loophole aren’t you . Bro most of the people, including myself, aren’t even gankers. You’re just wrong, period. > [@Aida\_Aragon](#): > > Not CCP but concord themselves deliberately delay there punishment ??? > > I think not therefore there’s an exploitable opportunity that can be taken advantage of . > > Where I come from that’s called a loophole . > > Obviously CCP designed it that way so as you say piracy is a legitimate playstyle , I never said they didn’t , nor am I saying they shouldn’t have . Wut. You know CCP designed CONCORD right? You know you’re playing a vidya game right? CONCORD responds to an algorithm that CCP designed. Which you admit to them doing. Are you slow or > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Good trolling imitates intelligence, bad trolling imitates ignorance. I hope to Quafe he’s trolling. If someone is actually this stupid, uh, man its terrifying. > [@Aida\_Aragon](#): > > Close , the concord officer wants to punish you as soon as possible , but can’t because of travel time , this leaves the window of opportunity for people to take advantage of . By design. Intentional design. So its not a loophole bruv. > [@Aida\_Aragon](#): > > Yes I think several of them seem to think I’m accusing them of exploiting which isn’t the case > > I’m talking about the security of high sec and why it isn’t total … lore / RP wise No you literally did. Now you’re gas lighting and attempting to move the goal posts, most likely cause you finally realized how dumb you sound 😃 > [@Aida\_Aragon](#): > > Perhaps your right conceptually but the response time effects capsuleers security as piracy is more expensive and difficult in higher security systems , therefore capsuleers are better secured against it . Interesting how now you moved it from being a loophole. What changed? Realized you sounded super dumb so now you’re trying another way? > [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > Most definitely don’t want thermal or kinetic holes, but coercers, purifiers, thrashers, and tornados are not infrequently used. Hard to say what ammo the latter two most often use. Depends on what they going after. Peeps use coercers on blinged abyss fits cause they usually rock shield tank. Catas can be for almost anything but ruppies/thrashers/nados are when you need high volley damage. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/190 "2022-01-22T22:47:12Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Praise James 315 for inventing the Ship Scanner, so that guesswork is no longer needed when deciding on what ships to use against a target Are you talking about group play there? So how does that work in solo play? You don’t know what weaponry they have until you scan them and most likely you’re in the wrong ship. So you scan them and… dock and undock in the right ship? Supposing the ship that will do ( be useful ) is even in the same system. Aren’t they gone by then? Most likely they’ve seen you scan them so they know something’s up, right? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/191 "2022-01-22T22:54:36Z")
There is passive targeting mods so they don’t know they are being scanned 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/192 "2022-01-22T22:54:41Z")
That’s what alts are for. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/193 "2022-01-22T22:57:32Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > That’s what alts are for So… multiboxing then? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/194 "2022-01-22T22:59:24Z")
Yes. Why not? ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/195 "2022-01-22T23:02:28Z")
Ok. Just trying to understand how I’d do that solo. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/196 "2022-01-22T23:33:55Z")
according to Lore, Concord does not care about piracy…Concord’s job is to disrupt Capsuleers from unmitigated combat in High Security space… The Empires do not want Capsuleers to be able to engage in combat when ever they wish to on what ever targets they wish to. Thus your re-clone ability is tied to Concord Fluid routers, your med bays are owned by the Empires, and Concord is there to kick your ass if you are not paying them to look the other way(ie wardecs) ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/197 "2022-01-23T02:54:26Z")
They messed up hisec war decs. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/198 "2022-01-23T03:28:05Z")
Or rather, as the people who shed fake tears over the “murdered rookies” while they themselves are now able to multi-box chain-grind high-sec PvE content in complete safety would say, “they fixed griefing.” ---
**Author:** ![L\_Amour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/l_amour/32/305482_2.png) [@L\_Amour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/L_Amour)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/199 "2022-01-23T03:34:49Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > “murdered rookies” Yea. No one gets ‘murdered’ on EVE, we capsuleers are immortals anyway so the crybabies’ argument about rookies getting slaughtered is asinine nonsense. I do hope the Devs know better than to fall for that line. And using new players for an argument against consentual PvP is pure cowardice and low. ---
**Author:** ![Aida\_Aragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aida_aragon/32/298293_2.png) [@Aida\_Aragon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aida_Aragon)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/200 "2022-01-23T04:27:29Z")
Must just be a matter of perspective To me high sec space is secure _except_… To you high sec space isn’t secure _but_ … ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/201 "2022-01-23T08:40:32Z")
> [@Aida\_Aragon](#): > > a ‘loophole’ in concords ability to totally defend high sec This is not hard to understand. CCP does not want CONCORD to “totally defend” Highsec. CCP makes money when wealthy carebears die. CCP wants gankers to kill Highsec miners. Consequently, CONCORD is not all powerful. ---
**Author:** ![Aida\_Aragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aida_aragon/32/298293_2.png) [@Aida\_Aragon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aida_Aragon)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/202 "2022-01-23T09:23:11Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > > [@Aida\_Aragon](#): > > > > a ‘loophole’ in concords ability to totally defend high sec > > CCP does not want CONCORD to “totally defend” Highsec. > > CCP makes money when wealthy carebears die. > > CCP wants gankers to kill Highsec miners. > > Consequently, CONCORD is not all powerful. Yes I totally agree with that ---
**Author:** ![L\_Amour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/l_amour/32/305482_2.png) [@L\_Amour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/L_Amour)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/203 "2022-01-23T09:27:51Z")
> [@Aida\_Aragon](#): > > To me high sec space is secure _except_… … _except_ it’s not secure. If it was “secure” capsuleers wouldn’t get blown up. CONCORD does not bring _security_. CONCORD brings punishment. I thought we went over that in detail yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Aida\_Aragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aida_aragon/32/298293_2.png) [@Aida\_Aragon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aida_Aragon)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/204 "2022-01-23T09:30:39Z")
> [@L\_Amour](#): > > > [@Aida\_Aragon](#): > > > > is secure _except_… > > … except it’s not secure. You just seem to be taking issue with me for the order that I’m using the words in a sentence that means exactly the same thing , any particular reason why ? ---
**Author:** ![L\_Amour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/l_amour/32/305482_2.png) [@L\_Amour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/L_Amour)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/205 "2022-01-23T09:39:51Z")
> [@Aida\_Aragon](#): > > any particular reason why ? I don’t “take issue” but your observation is noted. I just don’t agree with the idea of New Eden space having anything to do with _security_, the two are polar opposite. There is nothing _secure_ with EVE’s space and the sooner you disassociate the two the sooner you can have a good time flying your ships. ---
**Author:** ![Aida\_Aragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aida_aragon/32/298293_2.png) [@Aida\_Aragon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aida_Aragon)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/206 "2022-01-23T09:41:07Z")
> [@L\_Amour](#): > > have a good time flying your ships. I do that’s why I play , hope you do too ---
**Author:** ![L\_Amour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/l_amour/32/305482_2.png) [@L\_Amour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/L_Amour)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/207 "2022-01-23T09:47:58Z")
> [@Aida\_Aragon](#): > > I do that’s why I play +1 > [@Aida\_Aragon](#): > > hope you do too You kidding? I’m having a blast. Yesterday I “moved my pieces” to a constellation right next to 0.3 sec. and I had to pick up modules in 0.4 sec. It was exciting, I anticipated to get attacked but, halas, I didn’t. I used a website to see how many ships were attacked along my route and took a free corvette to go pick up my stuff. I was on edge and alert. It was great. Can’t wait to get blown up. It’s going to be great, I’m gonna scream like a little girl 😅 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536.md?page=11)