# Continued Scarcity

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 19, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536 "2022-01-19T15:33:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/127 "2022-01-22T04:54:51Z")

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@Aida_Aragon which security force are you referring to? Faction Police, Faction Navy, or CONCORD??

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**Author:** ![Aida\_Aragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aida_aragon/32/298293_2.png) [@Aida\_Aragon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aida_Aragon)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/128 "2022-01-22T04:57:19Z")

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Well if you bothered to read my post I said warp time to nearest station not instant destruction as ‘fastest possible’ response .

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**Author:** ![Aida\_Aragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aida_aragon/32/298293_2.png) [@Aida\_Aragon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aida_Aragon)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/129 "2022-01-22T04:58:42Z")

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> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#):
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> @Aida_Aragon which security force are you referring to? Faction Police, Faction Navy, or CONCORD??

Concord

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 5:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/130 "2022-01-22T05:00:23Z")

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Ships warp at different speeds, and stations (even “nearest” ones) are located at different distances.

Just more asinine obfuscation from someone whose first reply in the exchange was to question the intelligence of the person they were replying to.

This is like _literally_ butter-knife-seppuku level of shameful.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/131 "2022-01-22T05:02:00Z")

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19 seconds should be enough time for you to not be destroyed by another player if you are tanked properly… or already aligned to another station/structure before you are destroyed.

you can always pull concord near you with an alt, if you are that scared of having your space pixels, blown to tiny pixels.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/132 "2022-01-22T05:02:25Z")

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A lot of people wonder WHY it takes so long for CONCORD to respond.

I think the obvious explanation is that CONCORD is secretly working with gankers, and they deliberately delay their own response to allow the gankers to gank.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/133 "2022-01-22T05:04:08Z")

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Geo, stop beating the dead horse. This person wants ganking removed, as is evident from the easily-extracted confession. You’re not going to change their mind by explaining the mechanics and presenting survival tips.

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**Author:** ![Aida\_Aragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aida_aragon/32/298293_2.png) [@Aida\_Aragon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aida_Aragon)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/134 "2022-01-22T05:04:08Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Ships warp at different speeds, and stations (even “nearest” ones) are located at different distances.

I am aware of that yes . So a loophole would still exists that could be exploited in some situations

Also I did credit you with more intelligence than not to understand what loophole I was referring to

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**Author:** ![Aida\_Aragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aida_aragon/32/298293_2.png) [@Aida\_Aragon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aida_Aragon)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/135 "2022-01-22T05:07:20Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> easily-extracted confession.

Which confession is this that your referring to ?

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**Author:** ![Ember\_Fireheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_fireheart/32/278556_2.png) [@Ember\_Fireheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Fireheart)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/136 "2022-01-22T07:01:31Z")

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I walked away from this game a year and a half ago and since then I see very little actual content only event’s that last a short while and then disapear leaving nothing afterwards is this game still being developed or are the devs working on another game?

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/137 "2022-01-22T07:16:50Z")

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they just had a huge change in mining and industry.

another CCP team, in London is working on a new FPS.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/138 "2022-01-22T09:06:39Z")

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> [@Aida\_Aragon](#):
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> I credited you with more intelligence but to spell it out response times being longer than a warp to the nearest station

In other words, you got no explanation ROFL.

> [@Aida\_Aragon](#):
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> Yes if you read my post I did say loopholes that CCP had deliberately designed

Like what?

> [@Aida\_Aragon](#):
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> Sorry programing the response time to be less than as fast as possible is a loophole , a deliberate one yes and a loophole that’s bigger ( more inadequate ) in lower security systems

No it isn’t a loophole. Its by design. Dude do you even play the game or

The closer you get to low, the slower CONCORD is.

> [@Aida\_Aragon](#):
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> I am aware of that yes . So a loophole would still exists that could be exploited in some situations
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> Also I did credit you with more intelligence than not to understand what loophole I was referring to

Brother. Listen carefully now. Use all your intellect. It isn’t a loophole. CCP literally designed it that way 😃

> [@Ember\_Fireheart](#):
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> I walked away from this game a year and a half ago and since then I see very little actual content only event’s that last a short while and then disapear leaving nothing afterwards is this game still being developed or are the devs working on another game?

No one cares, you don’t play. HTFU 😃

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**Author:** ![Aida\_Aragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aida_aragon/32/298293_2.png) [@Aida\_Aragon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aida_Aragon)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/139 "2022-01-22T09:21:07Z")

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Yes they designed it so there was a loophole in the security that concord provide in high sec .

Sorry I just don’t subscribe to the it’s not a loophole position gankers like to take , it is a loophole in the security of high sec , yes it is designed that way .

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/140 "2022-01-22T09:28:45Z")

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Sigh.

You realize a loophole is an unintended vulnerability. The CONCORD response times are designed by security rating and by design.

It is not a loophole. Like all snark aside it is not. If you cannot understand, yeesh.

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**Author:** ![Aida\_Aragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aida_aragon/32/298293_2.png) [@Aida\_Aragon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aida_Aragon)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/141 "2022-01-22T09:38:36Z")

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Yes I know its intended by game design but still it remains a ‘loophole’ in concords ability to totally defend high sec against piracy , ingame

Not saying its some oversight on CCP s part or that it’s not intended to work that way they have deliberately left that loophole in the game design so people can exploit it if they so wish .

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/142 "2022-01-22T09:42:07Z")

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No, no it does not. I’m sorry bro. You are absolutely, 100% wrong.

High sec isn’t total sec. CONCORD punishes, not protects.

The player is in charge of defending themselves at all times.

Players aren’t exploiting a loophole. They are literally playing the game as intended.

I am really trying to refrain from just like outright mocking you hardcore, cause I get the scary feeling you believe what you’re saying.

Sadly, you are wrong bro. 1000%.

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**Author:** ![Aida\_Aragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aida_aragon/32/298293_2.png) [@Aida\_Aragon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aida_Aragon)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/143 "2022-01-22T09:45:30Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> You realize a loophole is an unintended vulnerability.

I do and ingame concord intend to punish piracy and not allow it to happen , but the fact it takes time to respond leaves a vulnerability in there ability to do that .

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/144 "2022-01-22T09:49:12Z")

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> [@Aida\_Aragon](#):
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> I do and ingame concord intend to punish piracy and not allow it to happen , but the fact it takes time to respond leaves a vulnerability in there ability to do that .

Ok. One more time bro. A loop hole is unplanned for.

This is by design. It is planned. CONCORD isn’t there for it not to happen, only to punish that it did.

Say that out loud to yourself until you understand.

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**Author:** ![Aida\_Aragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aida_aragon/32/298293_2.png) [@Aida\_Aragon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aida_Aragon)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/145 "2022-01-22T09:52:20Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> > [@Aida\_Aragon](#):
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> > I do and ingame concord intend to punish piracy and not allow it to happen , but the fact it takes time to respond leaves a vulnerability in there ability to do that .
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> This is by design. It is planned. CONCORD isn’t there for it not to happen, only to punish that it did.

That’s a strange way to look at a ‘police force’ IMO but fair enough if you see it that way you do , I imagine things differently

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/continued-scarcity/346536/146 "2022-01-22T09:54:04Z")

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Faction Navy will come after those with bad standings to the empire,  
faction police will come after those with bad security standings.  
CONCORD only punishes those who commit a crime IE a criminal who attacked another player… this is by design, and not a ■■■■■■■ loophole.

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