# Counterplays to Ganking

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [June 13, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821 "2025-06-13T19:14:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2025, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/82 "2025-10-07T23:20:50Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Always D-Scan with range 1st. Then proximity.

Fixed it for you! 😉 😆

And local if you have it.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/83 "2025-10-08T11:55:43Z")

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Ah. Good to see this conversation is still as…. Productive…. As ever.

Gankers creating content.

Anti-gankers being toxic and whining on the forums instead playing the game.

Miners as uneducated as ever concerning high sec mechanics, even though they were the ones that cried for it.

Good times.

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**Author:** ![Razor8lade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/razor8lade/32/469689_2.png) [@Razor8lade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Razor8lade)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/84 "2025-10-16T12:26:06Z")

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Would you like some whipped cream with that? I feel safer already

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/85 "2025-10-18T15:13:52Z")

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The only 100% guaranteed counterplay to ganking is to convince CCP to remove ganking from the game. 🤔

😏 🍿 😇

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 4:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/87 "2025-11-08T04:40:56Z")

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Counter was just to stay out in the belt and tank the gank

 ![IMG_0161](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/d/a/fda723cca90c70dab97aae492de75af2c8b1ef91.jpeg)

Tank the Gank

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2025, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/88 "2025-11-09T11:21:53Z")

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> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> The only 100% guaranteed counterplay to ganking is to convince CCP to remove ganking from the game

Nah. _Just never undock_. Then you can spend your entire game invincible and protected by an infinite tank NPC station. And you can proudly come on the forums and brag about how nobody can gank you…and that Ship Spinning is the ultimate form of PvP combat and you’ve won EVE.

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**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/89 "2025-11-10T18:08:35Z")

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do what i did….

[Related Kills | Apanake | 2025-11-06 15:00 | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/related/30005216/202511061500/)

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**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/90 "2025-11-10T18:10:00Z")

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> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> The only 100% guaranteed counterplay to ganking is to convince CCP to remove ganking from the game.

that will never happen..

the gankers are going to lose their ships no way around that

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**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/91 "2025-11-17T07:58:34Z")

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just take it to the gankers dude

[Related Kills | Iyen-Oursta | 2025-11-17 07:00 | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/related/30002642/202511170700/)

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/92 "2025-11-17T13:45:12Z")

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Nice kills!

But did you counter the gank? It seems like the cargo-expanded Nomad still got destroyed despite your efforts. Did you counter them, or was it more like a ‘killmail whoring’ that you did?

Not that I have anything against the latter, I too do it often in other situations, but it doesn’t feel like you were an effective counter to the gank. Once they engaged the Nomad those Taloses would’ve died to CONCORD anyway.

How many Skybreakers would be needed to actually counter the gank?

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**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/93 "2025-11-17T18:37:28Z")

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im sure the losses were more than the loot drops value.. that group had been avoiding me for 3 days.

the whole point of what i did was… to get around them losing ships only to concord. just use a specialized ship to get hits on as many ships as possible to get them lost to pvp instead of pve. most ships you might get a 2-3 hits.. but edencom? you get as many as 10 per shot.

click 5 ships or pods… nearest… and work your way to the farest.. then after 1st shot.. shoot the one farest away.. then do any of the three middle range.. works on pods to

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/94 "2025-11-17T18:43:49Z")

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I think it’s a nice trick to get their deaths recorded as PvP kills, but I’m not sure they mind.

They killed their target, so the mission was a success. Those Taloses would’ve died anyway.

Now if you manage to kill or disable some Taloses so that the target survives it would really impact them.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/95 "2025-11-17T19:50:05Z")

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You only get a PvP kill off a Concording if you get the final shot. So you need a fast cycle time turret.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/96 "2025-11-17T20:10:39Z")

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Is it?

As far as I know you just have to be supporting on the kill for it to be a PvP kill. CONCORD can do the last hit.

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**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/97 "2025-11-17T20:11:55Z")

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[quote=“Gloria Exercitus, post:95, topic:489821, full:true, username:Gloria\_Exercitus”]

You only get a PvP kill off a Concording if you get the final shot. So you need a fast cycle time turret.

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Unless you are the only aggressor or the pilot who does most damage if more than one aggressor shares the kill.

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**Author:** ![Admiral\_Mason](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_mason/32/480330_2.png) [@Admiral\_Mason](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_Mason)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/98 "2025-11-17T22:20:00Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> I think it’s a nice trick to get their deaths recorded as PvP kills, but I’m not sure they mind.

Doesn’t bother me at all, the ships were going to die anyway.

It actually makes ganking easier because when his skybreaker kills my pods it allows me to instantly pull all the CONCORD away from the gate without having to go through all the hassle of docking, restocking and reshipping.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/99 "2025-11-18T03:38:20Z")

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> [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](#):
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> You only get a PvP kill off a Concording

As long as you do 0 damage, you can roleplay like a champ.

🏆

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**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/100 "2025-11-24T03:05:46Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> As long as you do 0 damage, you can roleplay like a champ.

better than role playing a bully.. although for some they dont have to roleplay one ingame

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/101 "2025-11-24T03:54:13Z")

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I’m not roleplaying.

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**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 3:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/counterplays-to-ganking/489821/102 "2025-11-24T03:55:28Z")

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Like I said.. some dont role play a bully..

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