# Courier missions and courier contracts

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [February 10, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197 "2024-02-10T14:26:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/1 "2024-02-10T14:26:06Z")

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Hello, courier missions among other things are out competing courier contracts that dont pay as much so there is lots of stuff that doesn’t move around. An NPC mission will also never try to scam you, but you run that risk when accepting courier contracts.

To make it worth your time to haul small packages you have to do it in bulk so that means you have to verify many individual contracts from many different people to make sure its not a scam among other things before accepting it. Its lot of work for little reward? Setting up courier contracts is also a tedious process.

Over all this aspect of the game could do with an overhaul imo.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/2 "2024-02-10T14:29:40Z")

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> [@Wesfahrn](#):
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> Over all this aspect of the game could do with an overhaul imo

So what is your idea for that?

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**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/3 "2024-02-10T14:35:20Z")

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Some kind of delivery service that is easy to use and cheap for petty cargo?

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/4 "2024-02-10T14:36:30Z")

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Well theres plenty of services available like pushx or frog among others

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**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/5 "2024-02-10T14:36:47Z")

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I am aware of those but I think they charge like 1M ISK per jump which is fine some times

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/6 "2024-02-10T14:48:56Z")

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Waitaminnit, wasnt there a conversation before about cheap npc couriers cause nobody wanted to use the actual hauling services.

This smells like a rehash of that

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**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/7 "2024-02-10T14:54:56Z")

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This is what came up when searching for NPC Courier.

> [@Oz (CSM) kindly requesting your input regarding trading & markets features and issues \<3](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oz-csm-kindly-requesting-your-input-regarding-trading-markets-features-and-issues-3/425361/16):
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> On top of what others have said logistics is a neglected area. Without an improvement, the economy will continue to centralize around Jita. My proposal is the ability to send items in high sec for a reasonable amount of ISK

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/8 "2024-02-10T15:42:47Z")

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it is and @ISD_Traindriver closed some of his threads last night, im reporting this one for again opening a closed thread/topic

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Traindriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_traindriver/32/373313_2.png) [@ISD\_Traindriver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Traindriver)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/9 "2024-02-10T15:56:00Z")

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As long as it’s about improving player courier jobs - and not the Npc Hauling again - I think that’s fine.

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/10 "2024-02-10T18:42:59Z")

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it’s NPC hauling… again…

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**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/11 "2024-02-15T10:40:47Z")

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What happened?

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**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/12 "2024-02-15T16:18:55Z")

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Possibly miscommunication and a lack of openness toward issues and new ideas

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/13 "2024-02-15T16:37:32Z")

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So how do you propose to improve courier contracts between players?

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**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/14 "2024-02-15T16:51:34Z")

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Setting up a cuirier contract today is a pita tbh, also there is a minimum fee of 10K ISK which is pricing out some stuff.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/15 "2024-02-15T17:42:37Z")

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Ok and… What. Do…you…propose???

Do you want npcs to take the place of courier contracts?

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**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/16 "2024-02-16T07:58:49Z")

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A hybrid system seems optimal but the most important issue is to improve the UX when it comes to creating and accepting courier contracts if you want them to grow

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**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/17 "2024-02-26T15:00:08Z")

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Mildly interesting talk from Fanfest 2023

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/c/d/ccd8608cf30c220f0952132b7e77decbb811f5e3.jpeg "EVE Online | EVE Fanfest 2023 - Space Truckers Guide to New Eden") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BX_k-0YQwc)

Some slides from the talk

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/8/a/38a2f8d1fabc7b7ca4de8726a9313182635ac1fe.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/courier-missions-and-courier-contracts/439197/18 "2024-05-26T15:00:46Z")

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