# Create a player-made SKINs program like Warframe instead of monetizing newbies and trying to attract Credit Card Warriors

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 22, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320 "2021-06-22T18:53:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ember\_Niagara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_niagara/32/278331_2.png) [@Ember\_Niagara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Niagara)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/1 "2021-06-22T18:53:12Z")

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1. Allow community created ship SKINs with an approval process similar to Alliance Logos
2. Give a % cut of PLEX to the creator for every purchase
3. [/u/CaldariPrimePonyClub (best 3rd party SKIN creator) never has to sub again](https://nm.reddit.com/user/CaldariPrimePonyClub/submitted/)
4. ???
5. **You profit WITHOUT milking newbies for $5 bucks**
6. Players get to fly ships emblazoned with color schemes of their favorite alliances

CCP, rándýr peningastefna þín er ógeðsleg. Vinsamlegast hættu að reyna að soga peninga út úr nýliðum. Vinsamlegast hættu að byggja leikinn til að laða að auðmenn sem skipta um skip með kreditkortum. Leyfðu persónum leikmannanna að vera með húfur og mála geimskip sín með Alliance fánum sínum og litum.

EKKI GERA ÞETTA  
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> **[r/Eve - EVE should copy Warframe's business model instead of monetizing...](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/o5uej1/eve_should_copy_warframes_business_model_instead/)**
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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/2 "2021-06-22T19:04:04Z")

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I feel bad for the new players they will end up hating eve and spreading really bad reviews of it when they spend half their salary in the first week.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/3 "2021-06-22T19:23:19Z")

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> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#):
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> I feel bad for the new players they will end up hating eve and spreading really bad reviews

So they’ll be exactly like most of the people that post here as well as almost every veteran player.

Always bitching and whining while threatening to leave the game real soon™.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/4 "2021-06-22T19:33:39Z")

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The problem is that many of these new players will not do that. They will shrug and actually slide the credit card to get this pack because they are so accustomed and conditioned to this kind of predatory marketing from all the mobile games they usually play.

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**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/5 "2021-06-22T19:36:49Z")

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I play Warframe when I get frustrated with EVE or when I’m waiting for a skill I need to finish training. I really love that game!

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Isaac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/happy_isaac/32/476115_2.png) [@Happy\_Isaac](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Happy_Isaac)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/6 "2021-06-22T20:25:41Z")

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i would love to have a skin from my allaince

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**Author:** ![Yuki\_Akiyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuki_akiyo/32/198990_2.png) [@Yuki\_Akiyo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuki_Akiyo)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/7 "2021-06-22T21:18:16Z")

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tbh for younger player pay2win is normal

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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/8 "2021-06-22T22:17:39Z")

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O-o that is crazy

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**Author:** ![Esmerelda\_Esme\_Weatherwax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/esmerelda_esme_weatherwax/32/379179_2.png) [@Esmerelda\_Esme\_Weatherwax](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Esmerelda_Esme_Weatherwax)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/9 "2021-06-23T01:26:48Z")

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This is still not p2w though.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/10 "2021-06-23T01:34:51Z")

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I like a idea of some Player crafted skins that are tradable or consumed on use and destroyed with the ship explosion.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/11 "2021-06-23T02:11:51Z")

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They mentioned this I think FanFest 2016? but never followed through.

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**Author:** ![Arumi\_Liz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arumi_liz/32/276823_2.png) [@Arumi\_Liz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arumi_Liz)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/12 "2021-06-23T04:09:54Z")

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Player trading happens in every game. They could even host a service where they allow players to set the price of things and simply take like 8% after every transaction approves when paypal, etc. confirm a successful transaction. This way they make money from what people have already been doing instead of punishing them. Just punish actual botting but allow people who want to pt, pt. Except don’t make it lame like diablo did and you’ll be fine. Like allow 10 listings (free and no way to increase it) only for subbed accounts and let players trade. When a transaction goes through take a cut of the seller’s profit. Simple. Quite a few brokers and real estate agents do this.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/13 "2021-06-23T04:15:45Z")

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You mentioned D3, so you must know why they shut down the real money auction house. When you introduce that mechanic into a game, you are opening a can of very litigious worms.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Arumi\_Liz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arumi_liz/32/276823_2.png) [@Arumi\_Liz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arumi_Liz)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 4:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/14 "2021-06-23T04:16:39Z")

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Yea, but if they did it just right it’d pay itself off simply because of player activity.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/15 "2021-06-23T08:40:52Z")

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More power to the players! Let us make our own SKINs! 📢

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**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/16 "2021-06-23T12:41:10Z")

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> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#):
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> They mentioned this I think FanFest 2016? but never followed through.

At one time they did show a prototype of players being able to pick colors and customize. Maybe even have “dye” that was player made, etc. Then they instead came out with skins in the rendition they are today and turned them into another revenue stream.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/create-a-player-made-skins-program-like-warframe-instead-of-monetizing-newbies-and-trying-to-attract-credit-card-warriors/317320/17 "2021-09-21T12:41:19Z")

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