# Criminal vs law enforcement? **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [August 21, 2021, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606 "2021-08-21T03:54:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/61 "2021-08-31T11:45:34Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/0/d/b0d689e8cb0f18b8eedb6210e8fb1bd4879a92f7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/62 "2021-08-31T20:17:53Z")
Ganking is good But Anti-ganking is better… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/63 "2021-08-31T20:21:09Z")
From where I sit, its all the same. Only CONCORD is to blame. Remove them, oh if I might, Ganking would end tonight. But CCP wish it be this way And so it goes along each day That ganks occur because they can And nowt as much as a single ban Is issued to our gunny chums Who shoot the stupid, all in fun And so I say with no dismay 3 cheers for ganking, hip hip hooray! ---
**Author:** ![Ingvi\_Andreus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ingvi_andreus/32/370888_2.png) [@Ingvi\_Andreus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ingvi_Andreus)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/64 "2021-08-31T21:18:26Z")
IMO they should add sem extra defence on ships in HS. They should be gankable… But it also should cost the gankers more than few million isks. Entering belt - Anom or mission will reduce your extra defence to default. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/65 "2021-08-31T21:28:13Z")
Why? Whats your basis for that? Answers in the form of a rhyme or couplet or ditty would be extra super ---
**Author:** ![Hans\_Roaming](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_roaming/32/283691_2.png) [@Hans\_Roaming](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Roaming)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/66 "2021-09-02T18:53:19Z")
They are only present in high sec. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/67 "2021-09-02T21:34:32Z")
Uedama sky’s Her loathsome cat is just a star, It needs no gas, and it dies fast. She’s not alone she brings her friends, a pet cat and lots of hounds. The cats likes to chase the salt, Especially one that’s at a halt. The pilot shudders at the terrific gun He want to leave but she wants the fun. Don’t speed it up or slow it down , It’s up to us to put them down . * * * There, my answer to the last guys post, somewhere, I think😂 ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/68 "2021-09-02T21:37:40Z")
We need to talk about a more serious problem: Poetry (or that atrocity people are pretending is poetry) ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/69 "2021-09-02T21:39:35Z")
Indeed I’ll never do that again ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/70 "2021-09-02T21:54:43Z")
As is ganking. Coincidence? ---
**Author:** ![Hans\_Roaming](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_roaming/32/283691_2.png) [@Hans\_Roaming](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Roaming)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/71 "2021-09-03T09:23:12Z")
Take a ship through low sec and null and see if you meet a gate camp and get ganked. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/72 "2021-09-03T09:25:21Z")
You cant get ganked in low or null. Its perfectly legal to attack people in those places. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/73 "2021-09-03T10:16:59Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Its perfectly legal to attack people in those places. Yeah, but whiners still call it a gank when they think it’s unfair that they lost a ship. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/75 "2021-09-03T11:37:26Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/d/3/4d3fdd67f4da890e9e0cdbdc8e0d3ebc005729aa.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/76 "2021-09-03T12:57:53Z")
The did that already, but not the way you want. They reduced resistance by 20% while raising damage output (I forget by how much) at the same time. This was done to make killing easier if I remember correctly, and I might not remember this right, I was still pretty new and happened to have been training nothing but resistance for a really long time. I was pissed watching all that time spent on skill training be for nothing. I got over it though eventually and decided to train for damage, speed, agility and being sneaky instead. Then they nerfed nullification and took a stab at cloaking. After that I kind of lost sight of the future and stopped giving a damm what was in my skill queue untill recently, now they are in the middle of assaulting the skill queue itself. My guess is that this will never end and that a Corvette is the only really economical ship in the game. I know someone with a Veletor that’s really really dangerous, he uses it to kill very large ships that expect him to be harmless. This has become one of my few goals at this point. That and mastering stealth bombers to V. I just want to see what that’s actually like, I’m still terrible at flying them even though I like them a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Hans\_Roaming](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_roaming/32/283691_2.png) [@Hans\_Roaming](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Roaming)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/77 "2021-09-03T13:20:39Z")
I was using the GANg Kill meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/78 "2021-09-03T13:42:27Z")
Good for you. I was using the correct meaning for this game. Unless you also think Sov War engagements are also ganks? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/79 "2021-09-03T13:43:24Z")
Yeah even though it was plenty fair and they just arent very good. ---
**Author:** ![Madlightning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madlightning/32/374748_2.png) [@Madlightning](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madlightning)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/80 "2021-09-04T03:29:42Z")
If concord is removed. Is it still ganking? ( in its current meaning) Or would it just be something else Maybe we should start using that in RL Instead of getting. Jumped You get ganked ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/81 "2021-09-04T07:44:52Z")
> [@Madlightning](#): > > If concord is removed. Is it still ganking? No. Thats the point. Remove CONCORD and make there be no doubt that PvP is something to be expected, not an outlier. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606.md?page=5)