# Criminal vs law enforcement? **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [August 21, 2021, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606 "2021-08-21T03:54:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Madlightning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madlightning/32/374748_2.png) [@Madlightning](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madlightning)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/83 "2021-09-07T00:44:13Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > No. Thats the point. Remove CONCORD and make there be no doubt that PvP is something to be expected, not an outlier. What stops. Those various groups who target new players. how does that help the health of the game That being said. 20% of eve would in theory have to be over hauled ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/84 "2021-09-07T04:47:35Z")
> [@Madlightning](#): > > Those various groups who target new players how is that help the health of the game New players enjoy PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Madlightning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madlightning/32/374748_2.png) [@Madlightning](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madlightning)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/85 "2021-09-07T05:10:14Z")
if introduced to it correctly ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/86 "2021-09-07T05:40:45Z")
I’ll take care of that, you just here in the forums and calm down. ---
**Author:** ![Madlightning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madlightning/32/374748_2.png) [@Madlightning](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madlightning)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/87 "2021-09-07T06:15:25Z")
na ill pass ill continue training newbros the intro combat i don’t know you, you can’t be trusted ,😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/88 "2021-09-07T06:22:40Z")
> [@Madlightning](#): > > What stops. Ganking. What part of this is giving your brain so much difficulty? ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/89 "2021-09-07T06:43:40Z")
So many true words in a short sentence, Keep up the training of our new players, if that’s what you do ---
**Author:** ![Madlightning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madlightning/32/374748_2.png) [@Madlightning](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madlightning)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/90 "2021-09-07T07:08:57Z")
that was a phone post. that period was not suppose to be there. what stops those etc. etc. and no reason to be snooty about it chill out. all i am getting it REMOVE cOncoRD ok YOU don’t like concord I get it how how does that help. ---
**Author:** ![Madlightning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madlightning/32/374748_2.png) [@Madlightning](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madlightning)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/91 "2021-09-07T07:11:49Z")
i don’t have a following or anything very casual. you teach a few people how to pewpew alittle maybe they devlope a blood lust lol ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/92 "2021-09-07T07:15:20Z")
> [@Madlightning](#): > > you teach a few people how to pewpew alittle maybe they devlope a blood lust lol and then you come cry about them on the forums? ---
**Author:** ![Madlightning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madlightning/32/374748_2.png) [@Madlightning](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madlightning)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/93 "2021-09-07T07:26:08Z")
maybe you are misimformed where i said I GANK i have done it befor. the full discussion has devloped there could be some improvements to Ganking as well as some minor alterations to the full relience on concord IE Shift some of that reasonability to players alittle. so maybe befor you think a post is the same post as every other carebare but its not. remove ganking is a terrible idea. and BUFFing ganking is a terrible idea those 2 statments don’t do anything except create Flak. and i bet its people like you who are not willing to think about new players how to get them up to speed except punch everyone into the ground and see if they stand back up… How about Give them the Tools and supplies 1st then punch them into the ground and see if they get up no hand holding so there is a Ganking problem the optics of ganking are foggy. for a new player it makes no sense ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/94 "2021-09-07T07:35:31Z")
> [@Madlightning](#): > > I get it From your response its clear you dont. If you dont want to look like an idiot, please refrain from making idiotic comments or “phone posts”. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/95 "2021-09-07T07:44:08Z")
> [@Madlightning](#): > > so there is a Ganking problem the optics of ganking are foggy. for a new player it makes no sense No, it’s not confusing at all. Pay me or I kill the noobs. I will kill one a day until you pay. ---
**Author:** ![Khan\_Auduin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_auduin/32/284841_2.png) [@Khan\_Auduin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khan_Auduin)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/96 "2021-09-07T09:14:28Z")
If concord is removed. - All high sec players would quit. - Only fraction of player pvp base would be left and eve would shut down. So i guess you want that ? Ganking has become burden of eve and needs to toned down by at least 200%. 1st. starting by removing empty ship exploit at gate, so concord would concrete on gankers. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/97 "2021-09-07T09:18:03Z")
> [@Khan\_Auduin](#): > > Ganking has become burden of eve and needs to toned down by at least 200%. How do you tone it down 200%? Does that mean if a ship gets ganked, 2 more spawn in it’s place? Good way to destroy the economy. Of course, I know you didn’t mean it literally, so applying the same logic, I’m sure you didn’t also mean that ganking has become “burden of eve”? Or if you did, based on what? ---
**Author:** ![Khan\_Auduin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_auduin/32/284841_2.png) [@Khan\_Auduin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khan_Auduin)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/98 "2021-09-07T09:20:19Z")
One of fix. Adding faster response time from concord. ---
**Author:** ![Madlightning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madlightning/32/374748_2.png) [@Madlightning](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madlightning)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/99 "2021-09-07T09:35:50Z")
what ever your clearly have an attitude problem clearly you can’t be reasoned with ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/101 "2021-09-07T09:37:19Z")
> [@Khan\_Auduin](#): > > All high sec players would quit. If CONCORD were removed there wouldnt BE High Sec. > [@Khan\_Auduin](#): > > Only fraction of player pvp base would be left and eve would shut down. Well given 2/3rds, 5/8ths or 15/16ths are all fractions, I fail to see your point. Please respond if you actually have something realistic and practical to add. Your trolling is just a waste of your own time. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/102 "2021-09-07T09:38:22Z")
How would you know? You havent even tried using anything resembling a reasonable argument. Or grammar, punctuation, legitimate english sentence structure etc. ---
**Author:** ![Madlightning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madlightning/32/374748_2.png) [@Madlightning](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madlightning)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/103 "2021-09-07T09:38:46Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > No, it’s not confusing at all. Pay me or I kill the noobs. > > I will kill one a day until you pay. yes it is maybe it is to me or you. but not to a new player [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606.md?page=6)