# Criminal vs law enforcement?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [August 21, 2021, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606 "2021-08-21T03:54:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/145 "2021-09-11T19:00:51Z")

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Maybe they are fighting to liberate people from their belongings, material attachments that hold their spirits back from being free… might even do that to their bodies as well to release them from their bounds so they can achieve true freedom. These pirates are fighting for the freedom of others, people who they encounter, not even their own, while putting themselves in harm’s way for the benefit of others… pure selfless acts I would say. 😉 😇

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**Author:** ![Suki\_Vokkonen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/suki_vokkonen/32/382402_2.png) [@Suki\_Vokkonen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Suki_Vokkonen)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/146 "2021-09-11T20:31:10Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Retarded response. You weren’t specific about Pirates;
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> > [@Suki\_Vokkonen](#):
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> > NPC killed
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> Own your mistake, you know very well mission runners equally kill opposing navy as much as they do pirates.

Alright… missions… IF running against opposing “invading” navy (faction loss). Still doing some good for your faction.

If you are also running missions against your own navy, yeah, you deserve to die and be podded by your navy when entering their space.

But yes, I was specific about pirates. You just think you are too clever to read and quote the full sentense where I specifically speak about pirate.

“NPC killed are pirates with bounty on them”

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/147 "2021-09-11T21:12:51Z")

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> [@Suki\_Vokkonen](#):
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> yeah, you deserve to die

Woah, calm down, this is just a game!

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**Author:** ![Suki\_Vokkonen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/suki_vokkonen/32/382402_2.png) [@Suki\_Vokkonen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Suki_Vokkonen)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/148 "2021-09-11T21:13:43Z")

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Dang ! Talk about taking things out of context !!!  
Talking about the character here, are your crazy or it is on purpose ?

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/149 "2021-09-11T21:14:08Z")

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Now you are mental health shaming me? Wtf.

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**Author:** ![Suki\_Vokkonen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/suki_vokkonen/32/382402_2.png) [@Suki\_Vokkonen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Suki_Vokkonen)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/150 "2021-09-11T21:15:42Z")

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Alright… I’d say you are playing the victim on purpose.  
Is it good ?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/151 "2021-09-11T21:22:23Z")

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> [@Suki\_Vokkonen](#):
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> I was specific about pirates

Nah you werent.

> [@Suki\_Vokkonen](#):
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> NPC killed are pirates with bounty on them. Killing pirates is doing good to the galaxy.

NPC killed are sometimes not.

> [@Karak\_Terrel](#):
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> carebears which are famous for slaughtering NPC’s by the billions.

You replied to Karak’s post. He was not specific. You assuming he was doesnt mean that mission runners (carebears) kill Navy pilots who arent Pirates.

But if it makes you feel better, Ill just lie and say “yes, carebear kill naughty pirate, this (somehow) make galaxy better”.

There, does that salve your little feelies?

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**Author:** ![Suki\_Vokkonen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/suki_vokkonen/32/382402_2.png) [@Suki\_Vokkonen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Suki_Vokkonen)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/152 "2021-09-11T21:23:44Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> > [@Suki\_Vokkonen](#):
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> > NPC killed are pirates with bounty on them. Killing pirates is doing good to the galaxy.
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> NPC killed are sometimes not.

But if I talk specifically about pirates, which I was doing here, is that my intent was focus on pirates

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/153 "2021-09-11T21:24:11Z")

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Yeah shes a bit tender, best not hurt her feelings much more or she’ll need us to go to time out.

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**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/154 "2021-09-12T02:00:24Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> I can’t see any body thinking that some pirates are anyone’s freedom fighter , terrorist then maybe

Apparently you can’t see that people will often consider only their enemies as the bad guys even when they and their allies are doing exactly the same bad things. Still, that is what happens.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/155 "2021-09-12T02:25:34Z")

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> [@Pan\_Dora1](#):
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> consider only their enemies as the bad guys even when they and their allies are doing exactly the same bad things. Still, that is what happens.

But don’t you have to think like that to fight , boost morale and drum up support, even sing songs and write poetry , even build monuments and temples to great victories, all to ease our conscience to the horrors we do, I know that’s more about real life but its still with in eve too

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/156 "2021-09-12T08:00:14Z")

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I think you are thinking about this too much.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/157 "2021-09-13T17:40:00Z")

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> [@Suki\_Vokkonen](#):
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> Flawed argument. NPC killed are pirates with bounty on them. Killing pirates is doing good to the galaxy.

In story line missions you literally butcher people of other empires, and no matter if it is pirates or empire forces, those are all ships with thousands of people on board, in case of pirate ships probably not all voluntarily.

In stark contrast, if a capsuleer dies, no one actually dies, because they can control all systems from the capsule without a crew on board and is actually immortal.

The empires could not care less if we kill each other, or even cheer if we kill the capsuleers that go after regular folks like them.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/158 "2021-09-13T18:39:09Z")

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The day when Null is allowed to burn High is the one day I will cheer for the Nullsacks

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/159 "2021-09-17T16:10:28Z")

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Don’t let size hold you back, even a mouse can beat a lion by getting stuck in it’s throat.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/160 "2021-09-17T18:55:49Z")

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/161 "2021-09-17T21:55:06Z")

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Yes!!!

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/162 "2021-09-18T00:11:45Z")

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That’s perfect

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**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/163 "2021-09-18T07:14:39Z")

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminal-vs-law-enforcement/324606/164 "2021-12-17T07:14:55Z")

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