# Criminals and gank failures **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 31, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769 "2021-10-31T07:15:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Kalodote\_Lafisques](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalodote_lafisques/32/388261_2.png) [@Kalodote\_Lafisques](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalodote_Lafisques)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/183 "2021-11-20T21:47:59Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > giving to the poor assuming the poors are them XD ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/184 "2021-11-20T21:53:02Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Can you honestly stop a gank with a clear conscience Githany Red? My conscience is always clear . I can’t see how you think of me as the sheriff of Nottingham type but them he had his supporters. All criminals will be judged , just like last night when we helped purge a border system of fraternity. ( Note I said helped we did a small part) ---
**Author:** ![Wah\_Huren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wah_huren/32/394699_2.png) [@Wah\_Huren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wah_Huren)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/186 "2021-11-21T00:52:28Z")
Not quite… Try again 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/187 "2021-11-21T02:17:00Z")
I just want to ask again. A lot of these miners are AFK. Why do you care about their spaceship, more than they do? You should get out there and start mining yourself, or learn to PvP - stop protecting weaklings, and holding yourself back for people who don’t appreciate you or care about the game. You know I’m right. ---
**Author:** ![Wah\_Huren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wah_huren/32/394699_2.png) [@Wah\_Huren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wah_Huren)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/188 "2021-11-21T02:31:32Z")
Will you teach me ‘Elite PvP’, like what you do? 🤗 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 5:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/189 "2021-11-21T05:08:13Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > stop protecting weaklings, and holding yourself back for people who don’t appreciate you or care about the game. We are at one point all weaklings but many can become so much more , not all, your right some don’t care some don’t like the game , some are just not cut out for PvP but luckily our game caters for them and these we protect. Many just need showing the way , take the other night a band of these pilots that you relish the thought of killing , boarded their ship’s. Small frigates set-up for one job ,pilots with little skills in the art of warfare , this one night we became a band of brothers and sisters flying to the aid of someone in need. Someone most of us didn’t even know. We dived head long into a massed fleet of cruises and battlecruisers setting off our Ew bombs time and time again one after the other . Other groups did their part ,whether they got paid or volunteered and the result, well your friends from null who you often gank with lost this day . Is what we do still so wrong to you. ---
**Author:** ![Fehet\_Deka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fehet_deka/32/282710_2.png) [@Fehet\_Deka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fehet_Deka)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/190 "2021-11-21T09:38:25Z")
And that is a good story, well done NEPF ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/191 "2021-11-21T12:10:31Z")
And like the chicken, it could just fly away but too fat to try. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/192 "2021-11-21T17:52:56Z")
Well played. ---
**Author:** ![Kalodote\_Lafisques](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalodote_lafisques/32/388261_2.png) [@Kalodote\_Lafisques](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalodote_Lafisques)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/193 "2021-11-21T19:22:44Z")
> [@SAFETY needs elite gankers](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/safety-needs-elite-gankers/338087): > > Welcome to SAFETY. police station fellas. We are looking for more members to catch stupid highsec carebears and are a pvp oriented alliance. [Keiko\_furukawa] (portrait of our princess ready to pull over a covetor for having contraband) Its not l-like i want you to blow up that r-retriever or a-anything b-baka!! Our requirements focus on honorable pvp in any space must play videogames and have a computer obey the law of highsec that has been outlined by our princess Aiko Danuja must not ha… You know anti-gankers are doing a good job when similar threads appear in the forum. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/194 "2021-11-21T23:25:23Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/f/8/9f883a3947d686f68b6a2bcd8b25ae5d4c297979.png) ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/195 "2021-11-21T23:29:45Z")
Q: What do you call a chicken that is afraid to cross the road? A: Chicken ---
**Author:** ![Same\_Old\_Topics](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/same_old_topics/32/282720_2.png) [@Same\_Old\_Topics](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Same_Old_Topics)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/196 "2021-11-22T20:08:54Z")
Uhh… C&P kinda just _is_ “similar topics”. Two topics, in fact. The same two. Over, and over, and over again. For over a decade. “Ganking good!” and “Ganking Bad!” (Usually written by the ganking good people trying to stir some drama.) I wouldn’t say that’s anyone doing a “good job”. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/197 "2021-11-22T20:50:49Z")
And the same old trolls trying to derail stuf and in its simplest form what else can it but the righteous and the deprived in there eternal battle , of course it will look the same to an outside of these events who comments with little knowledge or research. And where you get ganking good and ganking bad from , some pipe dream I’m sure . I find good and bad such silly terms don’t you think. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/198 "2021-11-22T21:22:38Z")
But surely, Githany, you see where that poster is coming from? I’ve been watching closely the 2 threads in which miners/industrialists try to figure out what is happening/will happen to their gameplay when the impending changes go live. Both threads mention ganking. Common, but erroneous myths are presented by the posters and, far from trolling, I (or someone else) must step in to correct the poster. Thing is, almost any thread in GD concerning Highsec is likely to end up being a wordy brawl between opposing factions of the ganking debate. Can you deny it? Yes, there are trolls; of course there are. I ignore them (when I’m not completely take in by their spiel…). Yes, ‘good’ and ‘bad’ are typical descriptions of anything, given out by people unable or unwilling to deal with nuance; in adult fashion, that is. They are everywhere; why not on these forums? The poster was, I feel, simply pointing it out to us. So, let me be clear; in a roundabout way, I am agreeing with you! ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/199 "2021-11-22T21:47:14Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > Thing is, almost any thread in GD concerning Highsec is likely to end up being a wordy brawl between opposing factions of the ganking debate. Can you deny it? You are indeed correct ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/200 "2021-11-22T22:57:48Z")
Tho to be safe, I would say the pro ganking crowd has ultimately effectively won. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/201 "2021-11-23T00:29:58Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/5/3/253aa617b52e6badf45004209522b88cebd80318.png) ---
**Author:** ![Same\_Old\_Topics](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/same_old_topics/32/282720_2.png) [@Same\_Old\_Topics](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Same_Old_Topics)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/202 "2021-11-23T01:33:15Z")
I’m not sure I’d say pointing out what’s obvious marks me as a troll. “Troll” =/= “someone pointing out something I don’t like”. And it’s _your_ forums. It’s _your_ game. I just think that there should be more to talk about than ganking. It makes the game seem boring. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/203 "2021-11-23T01:36:40Z")
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