# Criminals and gank failures

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [October 31, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769 "2021-10-31T07:15:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/345 "2021-12-03T09:01:39Z")

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Uedama is rather hot at the moment, it seems some particularly virulent gankers have returned to the game, that explains the several quiet days before today.

I would suggest that players who do not wish to feed this voracious ganker with easy kills do not accept short time courier contracts and ones that require full cargo holds if it requires passing through Uedama. In terms of moving your own stuff I would advise dropping your items off at stations before Uedama and taking them through in small chunks in difficult to kill ships.

They are in numbers above 40, so it is possible that they can negate the 15 minute criminal timer by logging in alts and using those that have not been in on the gank and closing that window to get through.

Of course there will be many people who just go through regardless. But for those of you who are a bit better than that, fly frosty o7

PS Just noticed that Destiny gave similar excellent advice in another [thread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/simple-defense-against-selective-gankers/339874/4)

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/346 "2021-12-03T09:11:38Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Uedama is rather hot at the moment, it seems some particularly virulent gankers have returned to the game, that explains the several quiet days before today.
> 
> I would suggest that players who do not wish to feed this voracious ganker with easy kills do not accept short time courier contracts and ones that require full cargo holds if it requires passing through Uedama. In terms of moving your own stuff I would advise dropping your items off at stations before Uedama and taking them through in small chunks in difficult to kill ships.
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> They are in numbers above 40, so it is possible that they can negate the 15 minute criminal timer by logging in alts and using those that have not been in on the gank and closing that window to get through.
> 
> Of course there will be many people who just go through regardless. But for those of you who are a bit better than that, fly frosty o7

What I find curious is you aren’t actually doing anything about them. Not asking people to fleet up and help.

Just passing useless intel 😃

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> In terms of moving your own stuff I would advise dropping your items off at stations before Uedama and taking them through in small chunks in difficult to kill ships.

Huh. You said this wouldn’t work before and was impossible. Interesting.

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**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/347 "2021-12-04T00:37:33Z")

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Gankers failing every day. Even on empty freighters 🍿

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/7/6/a767f053129428f496ea287116960cf408458a77.jpeg "EVE Online - Safety Fail Gank On Eric (Obelisk Freighter)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8JJwTklEjo)

Thanks to the epic efforts of the anti-gankers, especially Lt Rita Vratski and their ECM Burst Griffin, #ERIC LIVES!

Long Live Eric!

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/348 "2021-12-04T06:47:56Z")

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Fake news.

> **[Obelisk | Eric Snarski | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/97109458/)**
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> Eric Snarski (Science and Trade Institute) lost their Obelisk in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by Rafa Quinterro (The Conference Elite) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 3,427,086,830.57 ISK

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/349 "2021-12-04T09:00:18Z")

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#EricLives, well twice he did, but the third time was unlucky. Was a real ganker failure that and all for an empty freighter. There was a ganker freighter blown up in Sivala which is not on the killboards and I am sure you were on another with Hazen in Uedama.

Was amusing watching the salt in local where the gankers claimed it was not their freighter…

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/350 "2021-12-04T09:15:08Z")

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How would you know it was their ship? I am disinclined to believe this tall tale.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/351 "2021-12-04T09:18:53Z")

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Yes you got him in the end but only after your 3rd attempt

Do you have the killmail for the freighter losses in sivala , it seems it never made it too zkill.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/352 "2021-12-04T09:23:00Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> There was a ganker freighter blown up in Sivala which is not on the killboards

Yes I was on that kill so I don’t understand why it’s not showing on zkill, I thought if you was on a kill and login to zkill , it would show .

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/353 "2021-12-04T09:23:45Z")

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> **[Charon | Yekaterina Alexeevna | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/97108546/)**
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> Yekaterina Alexeevna (Oceanographic Institute) lost their Charon in Sivala (The Citadel). Final Blow by lipatoonon (Private Mocle) flying in a Talos. Total Value: 3,687,824,059.14 ISK

I was on the one in Sivala with Tina so I just uploaded it to Zkill.

There we are a ganker failure in all its glory, unfitted too…

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/354 "2021-12-04T09:26:21Z")

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Great well done , I like to keep things clear who loses what, you know how people lie.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/355 "2021-12-04T09:32:57Z")

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They were claiming that it was not their freighter in Uedama local. Blatant lie…, if you have a kill linked in local, you should put it in an eve mail and send to yourself in case it does not get posted. Wish I had done that with the other freighter.

I don’t post my kills automatically, but have a policy of putting on if it involves a kill right or other people are on it.

PS Forgot to say but it is only the one who did the final blow that does it automatically, though those on it can do it manually like I just did.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/356 "2021-12-04T10:10:37Z")

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How is it a blatant lie? How do you even know its a “ganker” freighter?

You literally expect us to take it at your word?

Yea, that’s a no for me dawg.

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**Author:** ![Wah\_Huren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wah_huren/32/394699_2.png) [@Wah\_Huren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wah_Huren)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/357 "2021-12-04T10:41:35Z")

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Yekaterina Alexeevna is one of the names on my Naughty List

Ho Ho Ho

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**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/358 "2021-12-04T10:44:35Z")

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Thanks to all for the content and fun, was a fun two or so hours in Uedama.

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**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/359 "2021-12-04T10:49:32Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> How do you even know its a “ganker” freighter?

Because the “Oceanographic Institute” owned the ganker perch Raiteru’s in Uedama which were cleansed by holy fire a few weeks back as you will know. It’s common knowledge, any Pleb would know that.

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**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/360 "2021-12-04T10:50:48Z")

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> [@Wah\_Huren](#):
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> Yekaterina Alexeevna is one of the names on my Naughty List
> 
> Ho Ho Ho

Turned into carbon. As was deserved for being sus for stealing. Justice served.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/361 "2021-12-04T11:11:51Z")

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If your on the naughty list you die

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/362 "2021-12-04T11:27:25Z")

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Ok I see thxs Dracvlad

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/363 "2021-12-04T12:14:23Z")

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NP, of course you have to get hold of the in game kill mail to be able to post it. I never actually posted a kill that I had not been on, but I presume that anyone can do it as it checks up the Eve database.

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**Author:** ![Thotamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thotamon/32/505477_2.png) [@Thotamon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thotamon)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/364 "2021-12-04T13:46:18Z")

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Bit of last night action, did not record much cause the 35+ blobs kills my fps, all i ask for is some 4k high graphics setting, is that to much to ask for 🙂

Quadro cards are not the best for gaming but not to keen on changing resolution since i have to redo the UI layout.

Charon save from the night [EVE Online Charon fail low fps - YouTube](https://youtu.be/8z3-IUOzOkQ)

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