# Criminals and gank failures **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 31, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769 "2021-10-31T07:15:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Thotamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thotamon/32/505477_2.png) [@Thotamon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thotamon)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/365 "2021-12-04T13:47:51Z")
You spent 132 ships and 1.8b to kill an empty freighter, sure you guys have more isk than god i bet but still, i am sure you knew he had nothing in cargo. ---
**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/366 "2021-12-04T15:06:02Z")
Apparently, according to Aiko, there is no isk value on “fun”. 😃 fun / hour or isk / hour 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/367 "2021-12-04T17:01:59Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > People alway go on about the actions of gankers and how unbalanced the game is in their favour. It is unbalanced…but then there’s few things more fun than running rings around the gankers. Now that all 3 of my alts can mine, I can just dock up and switch alt and system when gankers show up. I’ve become extremely adept at using ‘not worth ganking’ shuttles to move smaller items about a few at a time. In case anyone is specifically after Cilla Cybin I just contract stuff to an alt and do it. These and other such things all count as ‘gank failures’…and it is fun sticking a finger up at these self proclaimed ‘lions’ of the Serengeti. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/368 "2021-12-04T17:19:20Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > "You buy ships. You tell yourself, this is the last bling Gila I will ever need in my life. Buy the ship, then for a couple week you’re satisfied that no matter what goes wrong, at least you’ve got your ship issue handled. Then the right shield booster. Then the perfect drones The ammo. The implants. To try and protect your lovely things when people like Safety come along , selling fear and intimidation , you pay more to try and keep your things safe. > Then you’re trapped. > Trapped in your lovely ships, and the things you used to own, now they own you. " Yes…the whole thing is an insane arms race type thing in which one spends 10m ISK on a ship and then add 20m ISK worth of stuff to ‘protect’ it. Which, of course, just means you lose more when, not if, it gets destroyed. So there has to be some motivation beyond just ISK…or the game becomes pointless. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/369 "2021-12-04T17:45:05Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Yes you got him in the end but only after your 3rd attempt Who cares? It took us three attempts? Ok… so? Am I ashamed to be on a WINNING team that keeps going even when things are difficult, a team which succeeds in the face of adversity and opposition? I am absolutely shameless. Ganking is difficult, requiring skill, planning, and coordination. We work together as a team, and we get the job done. I’m not ashamed of that, and you should be ashamed for trying to gloat about your own failure. > [@Thotamon](#): > > i am sure you knew he had nothing in cargo. Yes, we knew. Think about that next time you try to “shame” us for losing isk. ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/370 "2021-12-04T17:47:25Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Ganking is difficult, requiring skill, planning, and coordination. = Warp to victim and press f1. lol even a miner can do it right? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/371 "2021-12-04T17:47:56Z")
> [@safira\_jomita](#): > > Warp to victim and press f1 If that was true, why don’t you do it and kill some nice 20 billion isk freighters. Free money, right? ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/372 "2021-12-04T17:49:08Z")
Because I’m in the hauling side just that. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/373 "2021-12-04T17:49:44Z")
You don’t want EASY free isk? Just gank some other haulers and EASY MONEY? ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/374 "2021-12-04T17:51:00Z")
No … ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/375 "2021-12-04T17:51:58Z")
Ok, well I’m gonna keep doing EASY GANKING. EASY FREE MONEY, DAILY EASY EASY EASY GANKING FREE MONEY ALL THE TIME DONT CARE ABOUT FAILURE CUZ SO RICH OMG OMG ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/376 "2021-12-04T17:54:04Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Ganking is difficult, requiring skill, planning, and coordination. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > You don’t want EASY free isk? > > Just gank some other haulers and EASY MONEY? It’s easy or not easy? Make up your mind ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/377 "2021-12-04T17:54:31Z")
OMG GANKING IS SO EASY I MAKE INSTANT EASY ISK DAILY SO EASY SO MUCH ISK OMG > **[Providence | big hand J | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/97094387/)** > > big hand J (Dashou Group) lost their Providence in Sivala (The Citadel). Final Blow by Jinx Beirutbomb (Bigbadaboom.) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 17,760,293,950.28 ISK I did it while AFK ! LOOOOL ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/378 "2021-12-04T18:45:23Z")
> [@Hazen\_Koraka](#): > > Because the “Oceanographic Institute” owned the ganker perch Raiteru’s in Uedama which were cleansed by holy fire a few weeks back as you will know. It’s common knowledge, any Pleb would know that. Huh. It sounds like they just study the ocean? Holy fire? So you’re religious zealots persecuting oceanic scientists? And the gankers are bad people? > [@Hazen\_Koraka](#): > > Apparently, according to Aiko, there is no isk value on “fun”. 😃 > > fun / hour or isk / hour 🤔 There isn’t 😃 I know. Amazing right? Having fun playing a vidya game? > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Yes…the whole thing is an insane arms race type thing in which one spends 10m ISK on a ship and then add 20m ISK worth of stuff to ‘protect’ it. Which, of course, just means you lose more when, not if, it gets destroyed. So there has to be some motivation beyond just ISK…or the game becomes pointless. So you’d buy a car chassis but no tires or anything else to go along with it? Huh. > [@safira\_jomita](#): > > = Warp to victim and press f1. lol even a miner can do it right? Huh. You said so many words and so many wrong ones 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/379 "2021-12-04T19:26:07Z")
> [@safira\_jomita](#): > > Warp to victim and press f1. lol even a miner can do it right? You don’t honestly think you can just warp to another ship that’s not in your fleet do you? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/380 "2021-12-04T19:31:44Z")
Have you heard about combat probes by any chance? ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/381 "2021-12-04T19:42:15Z")
> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#): > > You don’t honestly think you can just warp to another ship that’s not in your fleet do you? You can warp to a scout in your fleet ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/382 "2021-12-04T19:44:20Z")
Is that what Safety is doing? Sitting off grid with a highly skilled scan alt in a t3c constantly refreshing combat probes around a gate to get a 1 hit scan and then fleet warping gankers in? If so, that seems just a little more talented than just “warp to victim” like the person I responded to implied doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/383 "2021-12-04T19:45:27Z")
Yeah, that’s why I said " not in your fleet". Which again takes more coordination and set up than just “warp to victim” doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/384 "2021-12-04T19:48:57Z")
-" xxx" ( you right click his name, select fleet, then warp to member) can’t see how it is so hard. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769.md?page=18) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769.md?page=20)