# Criminals and gank failures

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [October 31, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769 "2021-10-31T07:15:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/649 "2022-01-26T01:00:39Z")

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They also look cool.

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**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/650 "2022-01-26T01:52:53Z")

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Absolutely! Which is why we’ve incorporated them into our corp logo!

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/c/3/cc33ed04947533d316af14c80507d5c9cfafc4cb.gif)

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/651 "2022-01-26T01:57:22Z")

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Also underated is the cormy.

It is a venture murderer cause you can fit 2 scrams 😃

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**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/652 "2022-01-26T07:13:42Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> So, its right to sexually harrass another player? Yes or no?

Nobody ever said it was right. Of course it is wrong.

But you ( and several others ) do seem to like to use the whole issue as a straw man whenever it comes to AG vs gankers, and conjure up some sort of absurd ‘guilt by association’ with anyone else in AG.

Personally, I’m one of the strongest arguers for immersionism and against augmentationism…the latter being the sort who just cannot keep real life out of MMOs.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/653 "2022-01-26T07:27:33Z")

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Wow the salt really got flowing while I was counting sheep, seems apt come to think of it.

In terms of shooting only gankers, demonstratively false, nothing much else to say about that. But I understand the reason why gankers get upset with CONCORD whoring as they put it, their loss is now in their killboard stats and says everything about those that whine about this.

Low hanging fruit, yeah right a fast moving fast to warp Catalyst or Thrasher are low hanging fruit. I hate to think what a slow to warp Freighter or DST, or Marauder are.

Astral Battle is on several war dec structures that ended many wars, they have no idea what they are talking about. In fact the most amusing incident I had was being on grid with a war dec fleet in a Vagabond in Otela that was attacking an allied structure and watching them warp away and give up, just because I was there. It was not long after we had smashed a End of Life Leshak fleet, so I could understand the concern.

The white knight or hero fallacy, which they throw around like confetti. Opposing pirates is what it is because there are reasons to do so, only shooting enemies when you have a reason to is also another. When I was in Stain with Aaron I would only shoot those I deemed to be a threat, or part of a group that was a threat. And as a rule I don’t tend to go after explorers much when in nullsec, lowsec and WH space, they have to be part of a group that we really don’t like for me to do that.

@Githany_Red I would not take lessons from a player who does not post on their main, and if it is their main then has no kills since 2014. Talks a good game, but where is the proof that they are doing what they preach.

To help defend a structure in lowsec against a nullsec entity is not a sure thing, seriously how dumb can they be.

Do these people really believe the rubbish they put out, or it is just unthinking forum warfare, as per normal.

As for this guilt by association thing, they are pushing this sexual harasser thing at me because I suggested that another person wondering or asking if someone who was playing a princess type female character was really a female **was not sexual harassment.** How ridiculous can you get. And the only reason they bring it up is because the ISD will come in and close threads with this bullshite in it.

And I was given details of them going after that player any which way they can including false accusations of him trying to dox them on their stupid website and ambushing him with this in a public game channel with an alt of a player who insists that others keep everything in game in his bio. Disgusting…

Oh look two replies that I will never read, how wonderful. I have blocked you both, I do not read your shite, simple as that.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/654 "2022-01-26T07:53:11Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> asking if someone is really a female **is not sexual harassment.**

Actually, it is.

So what do I need to do, to satisfy your curiosity, and the curiosity of your friends?

Are you willing to prove you are a man?

Like, how many times are you going to ask - twenty times, a hundred times? Does it ever end? Do you need to see nude photos? Do I need to let you physically examine me in real life? What should I do, to satisfy your sexual curiosity about me?

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/655 "2022-01-26T08:06:51Z")

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> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> a straw man

Nope. Not a straw man at all. Earnestly serious. I do not agree with it, and will always call it out.

> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> Personally, I’m one of the strongest arguers for immersionism and against augmentationism…the latter being the sort who just cannot keep real life out of MMOs.

Oh? So you gonna keep that same energy with Drac/Razorback when they harrass her right?

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> @Githany_Red I would not take lessons from a player who does not post on their main, and if it is their main then has no kills since 2014. Talks a good game, but where is the proof that they are doing what they preach.

LOL. I love it when you slip. And hen you’re wrong 😃

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> As for this guilt by association thing, they are pushing this sexual harasser thing at me because I suggested that another person wondering or asking if someone who was playing a princess type female character was really a female **was not sexual harassment.** How ridiculous can you get. And the only reason they bring it up is because the ISD will come in and close threads with this bullshite in it.

Nah bro. It isn’t a push. Its a certainty. Its the reason why you are typing all these words 😃

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> And I was given details of them going after that player any which way they can including false accusations of him trying to dox them on their stupid website and ambushing him with this in a public game channel with an alt of a player who insists to keep everything in game.

LOL, I don’t think you understand what doxxing is brosef. Not surprising tho.

> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Actually, it is.
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> What do I need to do, to satisfy your curiosity, and the curiosity of your friends?
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> Are you willing to prove you are a man?
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> Like, how many times are you going to ask - twenty times, a hundred times? Does it ever end? Do you need to see nude photos? Do I need to let you physically examine me in real life? What should I do, to satisfy your sexual curiosity about me?

What’s sad is these peeps get this worked up enough over pixels to mess around and show how terrible they really are.

All over intended gameplay. Its sad.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/656 "2022-01-26T08:30:28Z")

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LOL!

I can just _imagine_ how he was feeling up his pulse out of concern for the massive blood pressure, as he was typing up that post through a bout of heavy, labored breathing and muttering something about wishing “all the griefers would just _die_ already.”

As expected, an absolutely _amazing_ rant in response to posts that weren’t even directed at him. Full of, uh, complaints about the best sub-capital combat hulls in the game being low-hanging fruit for a bunch of players in T1 destroyers, hypocritical complaints about people not being “active enough” in the game to qualify to voice their perspectives, further defense of the honor of a proven sexual harasser, more public blockings, and like an essay’s worth of boasting about being one of the best PvPers in the game. Truly a classic.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> being on grid with a war dec fleet in a Vagabond in Otela that was attacking an allied structure and watching them warp away and give up, just because I was there

Oh, yes, definitely. You are the best warrior to have _ever_ graced this game with their presence. Your infamous skills have known absolutely no bounds!

If I ever meet you in real life, I’m going to beg for you to autograph my Naruto shirt.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/657 "2022-01-26T09:05:47Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> I can just _imagine_ how he was feeling up his pulse out of concern for the massive blood pressure,

Your imagination is warped… The way you project is just pathetic.

> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Oh, yes, definitely. You are the best warrior to have _ever_ graced this game with their presence. Your infamous skills have known absolutely no bounds!

Did I say that, your extrapolation as always is warped, there was a fleet that did that, he was nervous of that coming in, was funny nothing more than that. Post with your main…

> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> If I ever meet you in real life, I’m going to beg for you to autograph my Naruto shirt.

I hope you are not going down the dox route with this. But to be blunt there is no chance you will ever meet me.

By the way I posted generally in terms of the attacks against Githany Red, does that upset you?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/658 "2022-01-26T09:22:33Z")

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Yes, everything you do and say upsets me a lot, and makes me rage very hard. I am always angry at the absolute ownage you send my way every day on these forums. You are always ten steps ahead, and make me extremely frustrated because I cannot deal with someone so skilled, witty, and just absolutely better at everything than I am!

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/659 "2022-01-26T09:23:08Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Did I say that, your extrapolation as always is warped, there was a fleet that did that, he was nervous of that coming in, was funny nothing more than that. Post with your main…

How you figure? You literally said the fleet warped away because of you. You got proof of this?

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I hope you are not going down the dox route with this. But to be blunt there is no chance you will ever meet me.

Sarcasm bruv. No one cares about you enough to dox you. You are worthless 😃

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/660 "2022-01-26T09:27:44Z")

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Over doing sarcasm like that after your edgy digs were pointed out and laughed at above is rather amusing. Your main is who? Do you even play?

Quoting Gix so I can see it again, how very childish, temp block incoming. Also the dumb bait posts earned you a block until 1st March. You cannot help yourself can you?

You seem upset when I block you and others, but why does this matter?

From my point of view Gix Firebrand aka Dom Arkaral is just an aggressive bait poster that likes to lord it over the forums, he does not say anything interesting and offers no insight on anything, no loss there. Blocking him makes using the forums so much better.

Aiko was fun, and I enjoyed the Princess bit and the over playing of it, it did made me laugh. But Aiko ruined it by accusing me of sexual harassment for merely doubting that what another person was asking was sexual harassment.

As for you, you make some good points every so often hidden in your long rants and point scoring, and you write well too, however you massively over play your hand, and you have a spiteful nature to boot. I think you are very bitter and I doubt you actually play. In any case after 1st March I will see your stuff again.

And can I remind you lot that this is a game. Whereas I see that playing the player is part of gaming, I do feel that as a player group you tend to go too nasty and too far quite often. You should think about that.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/661 "2022-01-26T09:30:39Z")

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That’s rich considering you don’t post with your main either 😃

Give us the null bear name 😃

Oof. All you do is copy other’s. I def know what you got now.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/662 "2022-01-26T09:31:05Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> > [@Dracvlad](#):
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> > I hope you are not going down the dox route with this. But to be blunt there is no chance you will ever meet me.
> 
> Sarcasm bruv. No one cares about you enough to dox you. You are worthless 😃

Actually, he’s 100% right. You can’t trick an experienced warrior’s instincts, and he saw right through my juvenile and blatant attempt to scam him out of his identity with that malice I disguised as a silly joke. You know what they say about old people in their profession. Yes, I absolutely _am_ trying to doxx him, and my agents are looking for him _as we speak._

He **will** sign my Naruto shirt, _ **or else.** _

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/5/3/553f9a7e97a72435c1acc36ef812935f5f669603.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/663 "2022-01-26T09:34:10Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Actually, he’s 100% right. You can’t trick an experienced warrior’s instincts, and he saw right through my juvenile and blatant attempt to scam him out of his identity with that malice I disguised as a silly joke. You know what they say about old people in their profession. Yes, I absolutely _am_ trying to doxx him, and my agents are looking for him _as we speak._
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> He **will** sign my Naruto shirt, _ **or else.** _

Hm, would say you _believe_ it? And that is your ninja way?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/664 "2022-01-26T09:34:42Z")

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Dattebayo! 👍

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**Author:** ![Same\_Old\_Topics](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/same_old_topics/32/282720_2.png) [@Same\_Old\_Topics](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Same_Old_Topics)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/665 "2022-01-26T11:58:44Z")

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Did you forget to add in a few ":-D"s, or is that mostly when you’re trying to troll someone?

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/666 "2022-01-26T20:38:54Z")

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Which post you referring to bruv?

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/667 "2022-01-26T23:27:27Z")

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Wow that was a lot to reading but it’s always good to chat .

So what do you think of the Poco wars happening right now .

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/668 "2022-01-26T23:42:39Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> You are talking about theoretical individuals, whom you never met,

Lol I was around at that time and I’d just like to bring up coach subway what ever his name was and the fox guy and many many other , its all on your blog .

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