# Criminals and gank failures **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 31, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769 "2021-10-31T07:15:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/835 "2022-02-01T12:43:46Z")
Well this really sums it up. Whether you think this discussion is justified or not threats and abuse that cross the threshold of any games is a serious issues. Mocking as a response. That’s a really bad look. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/836 "2022-02-01T12:46:19Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Unwarranted and false allegations of RL threats and sexual harassment. The objective of these people is to make Githany state a position so as to give weight to these false allegations. As I said: > > #leavegithanyalone It’s ok I’ll never waiver, in the face of isk or bribery or attacks , I play eve to fight the eve criminal class and that’s what I’ll do , the only problem I see and have run into is deciding who is criminal because it’s not alway clear. Long live the resistance ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/837 "2022-02-01T12:58:48Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Long live the resistance That I totally agree with, o7 ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/838 "2022-02-01T13:04:47Z")
To be honest when I read the discussion in run up to me first post I was convinced that the attitude was purely to spite other posters and i figured some common sense might prevail. Shocked is the only way I can sum up how I’m feeling at the moment. I know we disagree on a regular basis but wow…….under it all i thought there was at least some decency. This is the first time I’ve ever been disgusted by players in EVE. Well done ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/839 "2022-02-01T13:07:02Z")
I reject your false disgust completely, based as they are on false allegations. You should be ashamed of yourself. And by the way, I have been disgusted by the meta gaming of many gankers, this is another one of those times. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/840 "2022-02-01T13:14:22Z")
Am I a ganker? Do you really think I’m meta gaming? What the f\*ck would be in that for me? Are you really this guy? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/841 "2022-02-01T13:15:56Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > To be honest when I read the discussion in run up to me first post I was convinced that the attitude was purely to spite other posters and i figured some common sense might prevail. > > Shocked is the only way I can sum up how I’m feeling at the moment. > > I know we disagree on a regular basis but wow…….under it all i thought there was at least some decency. > > This is the first time I’ve ever been disgusted by players in EVE. > > Well done Aiko’s blog is apparently full of “false allegations.” I guess all of those chat logs must be fake news! Or maybe these people are aware that if they take a stance and put out statements that they don’t condone, and in fact outright condemn such behavior, then they’ll lose the support of the gank “victims” as the bedrock of their cause. Because it could get rough trying to defend players who would tell them “FU! Aren’t you on my side!?” when they try to address the publicly-evident toxicity. No, best to let the sleeping dogs lie. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/842 "2022-02-01T13:24:15Z")
You seem to be confusing yourself. No wonder you run around latching on to false allegations and attacking Githany. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/843 "2022-02-01T13:29:47Z")
I haven’t attacked Githany once. I have given her what i consider very good advice in the context of this thread. The fact that perceive it as an attack is you issue not mine. And as usual you take questions and avoid them and turn them back on me. You replied to me earlier with > [@Dracvlad](#): > > And by the way, I have been disgusted by the meta gaming of many gankers, this is another one of those times. I want to know. Does that comment mean you think i am a ganker. It’s a reasonable question. Almost as reasonable as …… Do you think rl threats against other players is acceptable? To which the latest response has been > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Long live the resistance Like i said. Regardless of whether you think any of this discussion is justified the cavelier attitude on display regarding a extremely serious issue is disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/844 "2022-02-01T13:36:40Z")
You absolutely have, this is not advice. You are insisting that Githany make a statement on known fake allegations and holding her up as guilty of condoning RL stuff if she does not, that is a personal attack. > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Almost as reasonable as …… Do you think rl threats against other players is acceptable? To which the latest response has been > > > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > > > Long live the resistance > > Like i said. Regardless of whether you think any of this discussion is justified the cavelier attitude on display regarding a extremely serious issue is disgusting. That is directly attacking Githany. Githany said that in reply to me and in part to me telling you that AG is a resistance movement. You quoted that way out of context, yes you are personally attacking Githany. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/845 "2022-02-01T13:39:08Z")
Again avoiding the question. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > And by the way, I have been disgusted by the meta gaming of many gankers, this is another one of those times. When you said this were you implying i am a ganker? Its not a difficult question ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/846 "2022-02-01T13:39:47Z")
Do you understand ‘latching on.’ ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/847 "2022-02-01T13:44:13Z")
I’m no latching on. I read this thread and the discussion is on a topic that i happen to care a great deal about. Ive read post after post of people saying anything the can to avoid saying that rl threats are unacceptable which is extremely triggering for me. I politely pointed out why i think Githany, yourself should address this and have been insulted and mocked as a result. Not only insulting and mocking me but making light of the issue entirely. A display of some the most awful online behaviour i have seen on this forum to date SO for the fourth time of asking when you said this > [@Dracvlad](#): > > And by the way, I have been disgusted by the meta gaming of many gankers, this is another one of those times. Were you accusing me of being a ganker? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/848 "2022-02-01T13:46:34Z")
You are mocking yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/849 "2022-02-01T13:52:45Z")
So for the fifth time of asking > [@Dracvlad](#): > > And by the way, I have been disgusted by the meta gaming of many gankers, this is another one of those times. When you said this, were you implying I’m a ganker ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/850 "2022-02-01T13:53:12Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Do you understand ‘latching on.’ Obviously you do not. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/851 "2022-02-01T13:54:23Z")
So for the sixth time of asking > [@Dracvlad](#): > > And by the way, I have been disgusted by the meta gaming of many gankers, this is another one of those times. When you said this, were you implying I’m a ganker? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/852 "2022-02-01T13:59:23Z")
I have already answered you. You just do not have the wit to understand and accept the answer. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/853 "2022-02-01T14:02:20Z")
Obviously not so why don’t you do me the courtesy of providing a yes or no answer to yes or no question instead of bloviating. Were you implying I’m a ganker? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/854 "2022-02-01T14:06:25Z")
Why should I give you any courtesy? You make baseless attacks on another player over fake allegations which did not involve them and you expect me to respect you. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769.md?page=41) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769.md?page=43)