# Criminals and gank failures **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 31, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769 "2021-10-31T07:15:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/855 "2022-02-01T14:10:18Z")
Calling someone out for refusing to state that something is wrong isn’t baseless. And as for the attack thing. My post extremely well measured. It simply pointed out how I perceived inaction of someone in Githanys position could be seen as condoning. There was no attack. You simply took it as one. But thats understandable when you have taken the position of defending the indefensible. Every perceived slight must be addressed. So now for the eight time of asking Were you implying I’m a ganker. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/856 "2022-02-01T14:14:41Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > And as for the attack thing. My post extremely well measured. It simply pointed out how **I perceived inaction of someone in Githanys position could be seen as condoning.** In your own words. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/857 "2022-02-01T14:15:38Z")
And what exactly is inaccurate or attacking about that statement? And for the ninth time Were you implying i’m a ganker. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/858 "2022-02-01T14:16:02Z")
lol ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/859 "2022-02-01T14:17:06Z")
I’m way beyond lol. I’m a state of disbelief. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/860 "2022-02-01T14:17:16Z")
you’re not gonna get a straight answer out of a circle jerker… ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/861 "2022-02-01T14:18:32Z")
Oh this i know. But the best way to deal with stupidly, arrogance and everything else he is, is to keep bringing him back to the thing he is desperately trying to avoid 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/862 "2022-02-01T14:20:16Z")
I am still amused that you do not understand ‘latching on.’ ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/863 "2022-02-01T14:21:35Z")
I’m still unamused that you think its ok to threaten other players in the eve community and are actively defending that position. And for the tenth time Were you implying I’m a ganker? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/864 "2022-02-01T14:23:19Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > I’m still unamused that you think its ok to threaten other players in the eve community and are actively defending that position. You are getting even more desperate and inane. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/865 "2022-02-01T14:24:01Z")
Desperate for an answer maybe. Ive already asked 10 times So for the 11th time Were you implying I’m a ganker? ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/866 "2022-02-01T14:31:12Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Were you implying I’m a ganker? I properly am wrong but you sound like one or support them in some way , but one thing I know I’ll never be drawn into giving real life opinions or speculating someone’s actions with my character. Unless it’s obvious like the princesses diary, which provides us with evidence that it happens . Githany is a game character and doesn’t play real ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/867 "2022-02-01T14:35:40Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > I’m way beyond lol. > > I’m a state of disbelief. Reminds me of: [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/0/a/60a3881abfdcc7db5fbe9e5e0f97274e9fd6177e.jpeg "Public Education: Screaming Woman Tells Abolitionist to Go Home") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQEhuVS7Wj8) ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/868 "2022-02-01T14:45:13Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > I properly am wrong but you sound like one or support them in some way I support them in the sense that high sec needs destruction and risk. Imagine the dullness of high sec if PVE or Mining fits were all maxed for yield/dps because nobody had to consider defence? Coz lets face it high sec rats are barely going to scratch the paint. In a similar way that you must support them. They are your content after all. You cant anti-gank if there are no gankers for you to engage. Necessary Evil and all that. > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Githany is a game character and doesn’t play real That’s a nice position to take. But you have seen Akko’s blog right? At what point does the abuse and threats cross a line from rp into unacceptable behaviour. As i said before in my so called “attack” ultimately that its those players that did that. Not you. I get that. But……… You are the defecto face of anti-ganking on the forums. People look up to you. And despite what you say that is a position of leadership. What you say and do matters and frankly the cavelier attitude to the issue of the threats that has been on display here is beneath you. I know you are better than that. So instead of being stubborn and feeling like you are getting one over on “the gankers” why not just say you think that behaviour is wrong and shouldn’t be part of anti-ganking. That benefits you, it benefits me and it benefits everyone because it makes the game a better place. You said in a post earlier today that I’m to lazy to scroll up and find that it was getting more difficult to see who the criminals were or something similar. Well right now from my point of view it’s definitely not the gankers. This will probably be shouted down as another attack by your partner in crime but its really not. Some issues are just a bit more important than petty rivalries on forums. Think of it more as an appeal to think about what’s being said here and appreciate that even the best rp can get a bit out of hand. If anything you should perhaps take this as compliment as in my opinion is that you are actually in a position to make positive change. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/869 "2022-02-01T15:07:48Z")
Even though I’m not sure which one I’m supposed to be I’m giving it a like. I actually wish i could scream like that, ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/870 "2022-02-01T15:21:54Z")
Sad, just sad. You spent all this time and effort on fake allegations, amazing… ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/871 "2022-02-01T15:22:32Z")
Now for the 12th time Are you implying I’m a ganker? ---
**Author:** ![Dyvinex\_Ssasen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyvinex_ssasen/32/303752_2.png) [@Dyvinex\_Ssasen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyvinex_Ssasen)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/873 "2022-02-01T15:54:40Z")
Are you? I actually don’t know. If you are… Neat! ---
**Author:** ![Dyvinex\_Ssasen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyvinex_ssasen/32/303752_2.png) [@Dyvinex\_Ssasen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyvinex_Ssasen)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/874 "2022-02-01T15:55:58Z")
My capsule is filled with pinups of the gator from the new FNAF game. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/875 "2022-02-01T18:58:29Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Purely in response to you pulling the ‘all anti-gankers are sexist…yada…yada’ card. > > You now hypocritically try to deny that you were tarring ‘all’…but your own words ( above ) were " Why don’t _you_ _and the rest of the AGs_ report those people ". You are clearly tarring ‘the rest of the AGs’ who really have nothing whatever to do with your gripe. Bro, scroll up and re-read. I wasn’t even the one who said that. You know Aiko and I are different people right? You’re a joke bruv 😃 > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > No…you are doing no different to what McCarthy did with his ’ are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist party ? '. Merely asserting that all a person has to do is say ‘no’ misses the fact that the scandal of McCarthy was that innocent people were even having such demand made on them in the first place ! > > The correct response is not ‘no’…it is ’ who the hell are you to be making such demands ?’. Who made you judge and jury ? LOL at the real life references. I thought you only kept it in character? And uh, no he’s not. You like to quote that era but you really don’t understand it huh? Someone just took a History 102 class and all the knowledge is fresh huh 😃 Did you have logic this semester too 😃 > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > My position… > > Guilt by association is totally unacceptable in the Eve community. > Attempts to smear people via such association are totally unacceptable in the Eve community. > > If a person has commited some act…that is the responsibility of that person ALONE. Heh. So you gonna keep this same energy with Aiko yes? > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Oh God what a load of old cobblers Weren’t you just trynna go in on Destiny for being ageist? And going on about hypocrites? Classic LOL. > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > What ‘anti gank community’ ? I mean last night there were 217 people in the AntiGank channel. So now you’re denying there is an AG community? Wild LOL. > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > smearing a wide group of disparate people. They aren’t a wide group tho. They are players who engage or believe in anti ganking. It ain’t that hard bruv. > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Yet here we are. Having the issue twisted around so that the people pointing out that threats and in particular threats of a sexual nature are unacceptable, are being portrayed as the villains. Yea, its wild man. > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Oh…I agree ! And the likes of yourself are doing the twisting…calling for ‘decency’ yet it is clear I’m responding to people who haven’t the faintest idea what decency actually is. > > Your pathetic attempt to draw some equivalence between ‘bad standings’ ( a perfectly legitimate practice ) and behaviour that violates the TOS is just absurd. What’s more, members of an Eve corp or alliance have _chosen_ to be in that…whereas you have merely _invented_ some ‘anti gank community’ that has as much existential substance as ‘The Eve members who drive Volvos’ community. What I don’t get is why you’re going so hard for this. I mean what do you have to gain? You know there is an AG community. You made posts about gathering ships for just such an effort. I would think you are pretty much against this type of harrassment from previous posts. I mean the only thing I can think of is either they slinging you some cash or you are a friend of theirs using an alt. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Unwarranted and false allegations of RL threats and sexual harassment. The objective of these people is to make Githany state a position so as to give weight to these false allegations. As I said: > > #leavegithanyalone ROFL. This is wild. But you don’t have any bias in this situation considering you’re one of them huh? > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Lol she support it on her blog and laughed, so that point is void . > > I’m not the figurehead people have given me that title , I’m just a line member in my corp fighting criminals in eve online. Ahh. How quickly you dump that title to shuck that responsibility huh? Sad to see LOL. Yea, maybe there is no AG community huh? What’s sad is you could have used this opportunity to actually community build and make your movement stronger. You could have used it as a springboard to launch something meaningful. Instead you’re just dipping and sacrificing all that momentum for 2 dudes who barely play and just krab in null/WH. Its wild man. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I have and will continue to call it a resistance movement, Oh. So semantics. Nice 😃 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > There is no leader as such, never has been. There has been people supporting this movement and pushing it and the gankers just run around and declare people who post on the forums as the leader so they can play games like what you are doing here, they tried to do the exact same thing to me several years ago. Just stop it, stop being a sicko! Uh huh. LOL at the last sentence. Like are you serious bro? I am having a serious Rocket Raccoon/Taserface moment here. Just imagining a grown man typing that sentence makes me _cackle_. > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Well this really sums it up. Whether you think this discussion is justified or not threats and abuse that cross the threshold of any games is a serious issues. > > Mocking as a response. That’s a really bad look. They basically now denied any sort of community too. LOL. Anything to avoid that responsibility. Its sad to see. > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > It’s ok I’ll never waiver, in the face of isk or bribery or attacks , I play eve to fight the eve criminal class and that’s what I’ll do , the only problem I see and have run into is deciding who is criminal because it’s not alway clear. > > Long live the resistance Yea its apparent you don’t know who the real baddies are. Get off your soap box, you already said you weren’t anything for AG. Why are you still posting? Why should we listen? > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > I know we disagree on a regular basis but wow…….under it all i thought there was at least some decency. > > This is the first time I’ve ever been disgusted by players in EVE. It is kinda shocking TBH. Yet sadly I’m not as well. > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Are you really this guy? He is. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > known fake allegations Cept they aren’t. Cause she has proof. But I get why you’re biased. Considering you and RB are the main ones on the forums who do it. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > That is directly attacking Githany. Wut. How is that even an attack ROFL. Its a question. > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > I’ll never be drawn into giving real life opinions or speculating someone’s actions with my character. So your character supports SH? Got it. > [@Wah\_Huren](#): > > Without girls, the calenders on the inside of my capsule would be very dull… 🥰 Just wow. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769.md?page=42) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769.md?page=44)