# Criminals and gank failures **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 31, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769 "2021-10-31T07:15:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1098 "2022-02-10T08:08:01Z")
If you say so… 🚢 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1099 "2022-02-10T08:10:36Z")
> [@Githany Red](#): > > but they counter it by not ganking . > [@Githany Red](#): > > if we show up in any numbers they don’t gank. > [@Githany Red](#): > > not one large gank fleet why I was on , why other members were off doing their own things You realize that means you’re _winning,_ right? Or are you expecting gankers to hang around to give you “gudfites” because that’s what they’re obligated to do for some reason? Because if you want **that,** maybe stop hiding behind CONCORD protection so that they can engage you as freely as you engage them? Or do you think that it’s only fair if you’re the only one who can legally freely engage targets? Dracvlad keeps droning on and on and _on_ about how AGs are bored because the gankers won’t respond in kind whenever AGs show up in force and challenge them: > Gankers just don’t show up or go AFK, so we end up with a lot of bored people Well, when I [challenged Dracvlad to open conflict](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/28), he released like a gallon of vulva juice, pretended that he didn’t read it because I was “blocked” (after literally responding to me just a few posts ago), and then clammed up like some kind of riverbed mollusk. So which is it? Do you people want genuine confrontation, or do you want to keep farming CONCORD kills while complaining that the gankers don’t come out to feed you every blue moon when you have a decent fleet out? The hypocrisy coming from your side is _downright palpable._ ---
**Author:** ![Donatien\_Alphonse\_Francois](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/donatien_alphonse_francois/32/305419_2.png) [@Donatien\_Alphonse\_Francois](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Donatien_Alphonse_Francois)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1100 "2022-02-10T08:10:44Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I am looking at a Vagabond with 18 killmarks I once fought Krig Povelli’s battle orca in my orthrus on a bet. Once it was clear I had won I ransomed him for 1b isk because he had 79 killmarks on it. We’ve been friends ever since. The quality of people you attempt to fight on a daily basis are orders of magnitude better at this game than you are. You should accept your place amongst the plebs and move to null. (edit) And before you go complaining about 1b isk, that was just the ransom for the killmarks, he has another 50+ orcas he’s stolen in storage, the loss wouldn’t have cost him anything. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1101 "2022-02-10T08:22:08Z")
> [@Destiny Corrupted](#): > > Dracvlad keeps droning on and on and _on_ about how AGs are bored because the gankers won’t respond in kind whenever AGs show up in force and challenge them. It’s funny how gankers act in space and on the forums , "oh Ag fail all the time " well you know what I mean but in space if we show up they start faffing around like a kid in a sweet shop. Unfortunately and I don’t blame them they stop being active or move sys and then yes it can get boring. We try to do other things like KR or hunt moving gank fleets but we can’t over fish any one area . Of course 10 pilots can stop a gank or fast tackler can pull ships from a moving gank fleet but they counter it . We know they are not stupid unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1102 "2022-02-10T08:23:42Z")
> [@Githany Red](#): > > We know they are not stupid unfortunately. Unfortunately, we are not stupid! ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1103 "2022-02-10T08:28:51Z")
> [@Githany Red](#): > > Unfortunately and I don’t blame them they stop being active or move sys and then yes it can get boring. If you want armed conflict, you know how to get it. If you just want to stop ganks, then don’t complain that gankers aren’t giving you handicapped “fights” just to stroke your ego every time you show up. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1104 "2022-02-10T08:34:36Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Anyway when I made the suggestion that you organise it, it was not a personal attack, but was said to show the issues. o7 for having a go in Uedama and respect for thinking this through. LOL why don’t you organize it? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Been there and done it several times, I am looking at a Vagabond with 18 killmarks from fast response fleets in Catch when I was in Tactical Supremacy for two years. Sure you are LOL. ---
**Author:** ![Donatien\_Alphonse\_Francois](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/donatien_alphonse_francois/32/305419_2.png) [@Donatien\_Alphonse\_Francois](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Donatien_Alphonse_Francois)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1105 "2022-02-10T08:37:59Z")
> [@Aiko Danuja](#): > > Unfortunately, we are not stupid! I wish I was stupid. Ignorance is bliss and whatnot. Unfortunately I’m not and I have to deal with these morons shooting one of my 15 gankers any time I try to leave Uedama. It delays me by a whole minute and 30 seconds. What a waste. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1106 "2022-02-10T09:25:49Z")
Why would I complain about a 1bn ransom? > [@Donatien Alphonse Francois](#): > > The quality of people you attempt to fight on a daily basis are orders of magnitude better at this game than you are. You should accept your place amongst the plebs and move to null. LOL, I define myself as merely competent at this game. And when I detail anything about my experiences it is only to make a point. That people seem to get salty about this is more of their issue than mine. I can freely say that Kusion is the top ganker, because he is, no skin off my nose. AIko is also an excellent ganker. This is also why making such comments is a total waste of time for you and those other posters, and is yet another gank failure. ---
**Author:** ![Same\_Old\_Topics](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/same_old_topics/32/282720_2.png) [@Same\_Old\_Topics](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Same_Old_Topics)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1107 "2022-02-10T11:17:55Z")
> [@Gix Firebrand](#): > > Uh, its usually the AG peeps who break forum rules on purpose LOL. Be honest. James opens some low quality troll thread at least monthly and it gets promptly closed. AG might break rules, but your side tongue kisses the line in the sand. ---
**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1108 "2022-02-10T14:51:22Z")
> [@Destiny Corrupted](#): > > Well, when I [challenged Dracvlad to open conflict](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/28), he released like a gallon of vulva juice I gave you a like for this statement. It’s so lewd I can’t stop laughing. ---
**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1109 "2022-02-10T14:53:55Z")
> [@Aiko Danuja](#): > > on a more even playing field You are deluded tactically. EVE is never a level playing field, unless you are fighting one on one duels in equivalent ships and builds and so on. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1110 "2022-02-10T16:48:35Z")
> [@Hazen Koraka](#): > > EVE is never a level playing field, Right, and gankers play at a disadvantage, operating against the handicaps of CONCORD, faction police, and gate guns. Meanwhile, antigankers have all the advantages – they can fly more expensive ships, they are protected by CONCORD, they get to loiter in space without faction police responding – and yet the antigankers fail continuously, and cry for ganking to be nerfed. It’s almost like gankers are better at the game. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1111 "2022-02-10T16:56:35Z")
You advertise so much for your style of gameplay, are you recruiting? 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1112 "2022-02-10T17:04:46Z")
There is a 150 million isk application fee. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1113 "2022-02-10T17:51:54Z")
No free test rides? ☹ I smell fraud! ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1114 "2022-02-10T19:49:48Z")
> [@Same'Old'Topics](#): > > Be honest. James opens some low quality troll thread at least monthly and it gets promptly closed. > > AG might break rules, but your side tongue kisses the line in the sand. 1. It ain’t James bruv. He’s gone. On the real. 2. I’m not even a ganker bruv. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1115 "2022-02-14T23:11:12Z")
WoW! Part 4, amazing! [https://www.james315.space/2022/02/13/the-exanondus-part-4/](https://www.james315.space/2022/02/13/the-exanondus-part-4/) ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1116 "2022-02-15T01:25:07Z")
Ahh the nostalgia this brings is chef’s kiss. Somewhere, there is a UO PK smiling. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1117 "2022-02-16T21:00:03Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Right, and gankers play at a disadvantage, operating against the handicaps of CONCORD, faction police, and gate guns. Meanwhile, antigankers have all the advantages – they can fly more expensive ships, they are protected by CONCORD, they get to loiter in space without faction police responding – and yet the antigankers fail continuously, and cry for ganking to be nerfed. It’s almost like gankers are better at the game. One has to laugh at you believing your own twisted propaganda. You have scouts in Uedama 24/7…I don’t see Concord doing anything about them even though everyone else knows why they are there. If anyone’s at a handicap from Concord it is anti-gankers, who those dumb officers of Concord will attack if anyone proactively acts to defend against the local mafia. Your lot only fly cheap ships because all you have to bother about is DPS…so a cheap Catalyst will do. Oh, and its not hard to be ‘better at the game’ when there’s 40 of you, and all any one ganker has to do is lock on a ship, hit F1, and get 2% of the practically guaranteed kill. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769.md?page=54) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769.md?page=56)