# Criminals and gank failures **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 31, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769 "2021-10-31T07:15:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 69
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1381 "2022-03-17T01:27:53Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Today’s Scoreboard > > Aiko: 491 > antigankers: 0 Keep it up ! I’m making a small fortune selling Void S, and Ion Blasters. See..I win either way. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1382 "2022-03-17T01:28:50Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > I’m making a small fortune selling Void S Considering the price of Void S, I think you are kind of cilly. Maybe less bluster, and less exaggeration, would be a good way to approach life? ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Pickle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/don_pickle/32/305160_2.png) [@Don\_Pickle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Don_Pickle)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1383 "2022-03-17T01:29:18Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Keep it up ! I’m making a small fortune selling Void S, and Ion Blasters. Who are buying the Ion Blasters? ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1384 "2022-03-17T01:34:18Z")
> [@Don\_Pickle](#): > > Who are buying the Ion Blasters? All sorts, but I see in my transactions list that quite a few are gankers. Neutron blasters don’t sell so well, its the Ion Blasters that sell best. Void S sells really well, but you need a lot of it to make any profit. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1385 "2022-03-17T01:39:02Z")
> [@Don\_Pickle](#): > > Yes I do, and you show once again that you should ask people things you don’t understand, its sadly the curse of the youth, to think they understand what they can’t fully grasp. Even as I see you falling lower and lower and soon you will have totally gotten evolved into a full fledged cheerleader, I still believe there is hope for you and I will answer your question and try to explain things that confuses you. Uh that was a whole lot of words for saying absolutely nothing LOL. What cheer the truth? You claim she isn’t making money, yet I have seen her do it. You can’t explain it cause you’re wrong bucko 😃 Cope as the young’ns say. > [@Don\_Pickle](#): > > Who are buying the Ion Blasters? I mean you’d know if you played 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1386 "2022-03-17T01:44:48Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Considering the price of Void S, I think you are kind of cilly. …well, there was an implicit ’ and other things ’ at the end of my sentence. I just didn’t want to say what they were. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Pickle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/don_pickle/32/305160_2.png) [@Don\_Pickle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Don_Pickle)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1387 "2022-03-17T02:05:44Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > I mean you’d know if you played No not really no, do you? Ok, just as a little experiment to show you some facts ( ). I will pull a random weeks killmails where Aiko is final blow or has top damage. here is the killmails: > **[Retriever | MindlessXD | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99348612/)** > > MindlessXD (Mischievous Mentats) lost their Retriever in Kakakela (Lonetrek). Final Blow by Aiko Danuja (Krigmakt) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 58,272,066.95 ISK > **[Mackinaw | Santaniko Hilanen | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99349234/)** > > Santaniko Hilanen (Deep Core Mining Inc.) lost their Mackinaw in Sankkasen (The Citadel). Final Blow by Aiko Danuja (Krigmakt) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 242,012,541.76 ISK > **[Covetor | Marilyn Monroe1 | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99349885/)** > > Marilyn Monroe1 (University of Caille) lost their Covetor in Venilen (The Citadel). Final Blow by Aiko Danuja (Krigmakt) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 52,301,347.97 ISK > **[Procurer | Nico Iso | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99366510/)** > > Nico Iso (Buendnis der Schatten) lost their Procurer in Halaima (The Citadel). Final Blow by Aiko Danuja (Krigmakt) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 57,066,616.45 ISK > **[Procurer | Peaceful Atom | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99369221/)** > > Peaceful Atom (Deep Core Mining Inc.) lost their Procurer in Uotila (The Citadel). Final Blow by Aiko Danuja (Krigmakt) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 69,217,024.05 ISK > **[Retriever | PifpafOyoyoy | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99411315/)** > > PifpafOyoyoy (Black Pushers) lost their Retriever in Sirseshin (The Forge). Final Blow by Aiko Danuja (Krigmakt) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 63,469,859.57 ISK > **[Retriever | ATIDON ATI | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99431150/)** > > ATIDON ATI (ATIDON ATI Corporation) lost their Retriever in Sirseshin (The Forge). Final Blow by Aiko Danuja (Krigmakt) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 79,339,060.71 ISK > **[Retriever | Rhys Brattle | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99460905/)** > > Rhys Brattle (Boop Brigade) lost their Retriever in Maurasi (The Forge). Final Blow by Aiko Danuja (Krigmakt) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 57,157,270.22 ISK > **[Mackinaw | Gigge | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99462069/)** > > Gigge (State War Academy) lost their Mackinaw in Maurasi (The Forge). Final Blow by Aiko Danuja (Krigmakt) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 307,932,791.96 ISK > **[Retriever | Vagnar Readhead | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99471942/)** > > Vagnar Readhead (School of Applied Knowledge) lost their Retriever in Oiniken (The Citadel). Final Blow by Aiko Danuja (Krigmakt) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 59,719,106.47 ISK > **[Mackinaw | Gigge | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99462069/)** > > Gigge (State War Academy) lost their Mackinaw in Maurasi (The Forge). Final Blow by Aiko Danuja (Krigmakt) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 307,932,791.96 ISK total dropped value from these ganks(aka profits): 89 377 211,23 isk Costs: Most of them are carried out by at least 5 x t2 Catalysts (worth est: 60m ISK total) 7 days of Omega time is 125plex( costs at current market price: 367,500,000 ISK and comes to a total of 1,837,500,000 ISK) So to summarize the cost of the ganks: 60,000,000 x 10 (I just let the two times they used t1 out of the calculation) 1,837,500,000 in Omega time Total of: 2,437,500,000 ISK in costs So profit in “dropped value” = 89 377 211,23 Minus the cost to do the ganks = -2,348,122,788,77 If you are nice to me I can do it some time when I have time on a larger scale, and I’m sure it will show somewhat the same. Let the spinning begin!! (Also I believe I will excuse me from this thread, as it is OP’s desire to show off their work, if you want me to clarify something above please contact me in-game or make a new thread about it) Fly Safe Boys and Girls (And Boys with Voice Changers) o7 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1388 "2022-03-17T02:09:03Z")
Wow, you are obsessing hard right now. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1389 "2022-03-17T02:18:58Z")
You forgot to factor in the value of the SP trained, which can be extracted and sold, and also the loot from the Catalysts, and the salvage from the wrecks. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1390 "2022-03-17T02:21:09Z")
> [@Don\_Pickle](#): > > 7 days of Omega time is 125plex( costs at current market price: 367,500,000 ISK and comes to a total of 1,837,500,000 ISK) Doesn’t count ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1391 "2022-03-17T02:23:08Z")
He didn’t even include the income from mining permits, lol! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1392 "2022-03-17T02:33:19Z")
I’m frankly amused that someone would think inheriting the CODE. empire hasn’t been an absolute gold mine. This is literally an alliance of people who gank empty freighters. I am never going to run out of Catalysts. The price is ZERO. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1393 "2022-03-17T02:35:53Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > He didn’t even include the income from mining permits, lol! My accountant just carved a pentagram into his chest with a rusty X-ACTO knife and jumped out of the 19th floor window… ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1394 "2022-03-17T02:42:46Z")
Uh huh. Yet you didn’t look at all the other kills where she made a ton of profit. You realize ganking is a mix between ganks for lulz and ganks for profit so you can gank more for lulz right? Quafe you’re bad at this game 😃 And that’s why you’re running now LOL. Thankee for conceding defeat 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1395 "2022-03-17T02:53:49Z")
My guess is that Don Pickle is either a failed ganker, or friends with a failed ganker, and they sit around thinking bitter thoughts, and trying to console themselves that at least Aiko didn’t become insanely rich when she inherited the CODE. empire. “reeeeeeee but my spreadsheet says you can’t possible be making profit!” 🔥 🤓 🔥 ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1396 "2022-03-17T03:08:42Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > You forgot to factor in the value of the SP trained, which can be extracted and sold, and also the loot from the Catalysts, and the salvage from the wrecks. Also, do forget the most important asset gained. Making new friends, spending time with your old friends on comms and if you’re a multi-boxer with 5+ alts, spending time with yourself, shut up in a basement, with empty bag of cheetos lying by your chair, licking the cheeto-dust off your fingers and chasing it down with a can of RC cola! There are some things, ISK just can’t buy. ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1397 "2022-03-17T03:20:15Z")
You should be eating a Moon Pie with RC Cola, no? ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1398 "2022-03-17T03:22:58Z")
How can you NOT make a profit when failed brain surgery victims fly around in vanilla fit Corvettes with a Bil + of junk in their hold. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1399 "2022-03-17T03:24:37Z")
> [@Leggone\_Stracks](#): > > You should be eating a Moon Pie with RC Cola, no? I prefer a creme pie instead. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1400 "2022-03-17T03:54:46Z")
> [@Leggone\_Stracks](#): > > You should be eating a Moon Pie Are referring to prepackaged abominations found at gas stations and convenience stores that should be eradicated from space and time, or the ones that grandma bakes with love and that little extra pinch of sugar? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769.md?page=68) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769.md?page=70)