# Criminals and gank failures

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [October 31, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769 "2021-10-31T07:15:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 78

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1564 "2022-03-26T21:04:14Z")

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> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#):
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> I also think it helps to have supporting material; a destination, like Aiko’s blog, where like-minded folks (and their enemies) can feast at the same table. In its day, James’ blog had artists, musicians, writers… If you have time, look at the ‘Art/Supporter Artwork’ sections of both blogs and see the amount of work generated by what started out as one man bumping miners in the Arvasaras system. I still think it’s an incredible achievement.

I’ve seen quite a lot of it, and Safety promotional videos. If it were down to me I’d have Bowie’s ‘Diamond Dogs’ as background music…or something like that.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1566 "2022-03-26T21:27:31Z")

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Holy wall of text…

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1567 "2022-03-26T22:16:58Z")

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> [@Lilath\_Pynnor](#):
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> Ok so what i find so inspiring about aiko is here u have a girl who is new to eve, and doesnt have years of experience like everyone else - - she joins one of the most dangerous alliances int he game, an alliance which openly scams its own recruits and kills them — and then she almost immediately skyrockets to become one of the most active well known players int he game, a top 10 on zkillboard and she literally takes the entire

Yes you are right about the Bandit Princess, you can’t take that away from her , I think we may have started around the same time but she has a skill I can’t match, I just can’t commit the time she does to the game. We all know eve can be a black hole where time is concerned so I set my limits and except I can’t compete with those that give eve more.

I think Ag has done well , endless ganks have stopped , we have the skill to stop a gank when numbers are right, we hunt and pursue groups . This never happened before , AG was a shadowy group , that lived in fear of being attacked on many levels.

We gave up many things to find a way to stand against Aiko and her monsters, giving up these things set us free to fight without fear of who these people really are.

This thread was started to bring attention to our fights, yes they may be small actions , that take part in the time we have but if it inspires others to fight , all these small battles will add up.

And so to the point of it all, our growing and ever increasing

_Resistance_

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1569 "2022-03-27T01:27:23Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> Not sure what would be worse , giving you a bil or Aiko, both would be a waste , your keys would open jack for us

I mean considering ya’ll can’t figure out frig fleet doctrines, nor seeding known ganker areas with frigs/JCs to rapid response says it all huh 😃

> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> The fact that you don’t believe what Drac says is not proof of a lie , more proof of your being an imbecile is more the truth of it, but that’s my opinion

Oh? I mean I was literally there LOL. He already admitted on these forums he regards BF as a top tier war deccer corp, his words. Which shows he lied in order to kick me from AG channels LOL.

Your opinion? You’re just a line member remember 😃 You don’t have any influence. Your words.

Man. Watching you dance around to defend this trash panda of a human being is just, the definition of ick LOL.

> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> How so? You that scary?

He claims whole fleets dock up when he enters systems LOL.

> [@Codename\_Razorback](#):
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> James hardly ever undocked.

Ah. So now you’re just lying like Drac. Got it 😃

> [@Codename\_Razorback](#):
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> I pity that you openly praise a couple of space turds.
> 
> Pretty simple.

LOL imagine being this butthurt over a vidya game.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I stand by my assertation that Aiko routinely lies.

You got that proof or

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Parked up my HIC on a gate, joe blogs finding his looter negated by me being there warped to the station, called me a no life and then logged. Riveting stuff.

Uh huh. Sure you did LOL.

> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> I think Ag has done well

LOL. You literally support SA and homophobia. I don’t think AG has done very well my friend 😃

> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> Aiko and her monsters

Um. You literally just defended a dude who taught a homophobe on here how to evade mods whilst still engaging in that offensive behavior.

You sure Aiko is the monster?

> [@Codename\_Razorback](#):
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> You people actually think he’s a she, that’s an accomplishment in itself.

Ah yes, the misogyny right on time eh? I like how you try to hold it in but you just can’t and then just show how terrible of a person you are 😃

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1570 "2022-03-27T02:09:37Z")

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Crawling down the alley on your hands and knee  
I’m sure you’re not protected, for it’s plain to see  
The diamond dogs are poachers and they hide behind trees  
Hunt you to the ground they will, mannequins with kill appeal

…Beware of the Diamond Dogs

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1571 "2022-03-27T02:29:09Z")

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> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#):
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> No-one can be everywhere at once.

Yes they can

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/6/b/16bb6087f337262279c49a830dc7ca9839a818a1.gif)

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1572 "2022-03-27T02:37:31Z")

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> [@Codename\_Razorback](#):
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> You people actually think he’s a she

Attacking her in real life now are we?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1573 "2022-03-27T03:22:45Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> Attacking her in real life now are we?

He’s been making veiled homophobic/transphobic attacks and sexually-harassing comments for a while now. Their entire little alliance affiliate group seems to have a good number of players who are really into doling out some “CIS justice” it seems.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1574 "2022-03-27T03:42:18Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> This thread was started to bring attention

I feel sorry for Githany, she tries so hard to promote the whiteknight thing, but then her allies always make it clear what antiganking is really about.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1575 "2022-03-27T04:02:13Z")

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> [@Lilath\_Pynnor](#):
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> Some people say he gave it to her for nudes

I think you lot should be aiming your vitriolic spite at this one, which is a bait post and a half and is what CR replied to, but of course it is his fault. Yeah right…, pathetic as always…

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1576 "2022-03-27T04:09:43Z")

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Are you saying that antigankers lack self control?

Are you saying that antigankers are not responsible for the sexist things they say in local chat, nor are they responsible for the sexist things they write in the forums, because they were baited into discriminatory behaviour?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1577 "2022-03-27T04:27:11Z")

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It’s not their fault—they are such virile and masculine alpha male warriors that they can’t help it.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1578 "2022-03-27T05:09:19Z")

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So best to ignore yet another attempt to get this thread locked, the real question is, how many ganker failures will be reported over the coming day?

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1579 "2022-03-27T05:54:09Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> I feel sorry for Githany, she tries so hard to promote the whiteknight thing,

Funny I feel sorry for you , your groups house’s some of the most toxic people gaming has seen , did D400 get a ban.

I tend to assign ganker bad behaviour on a number of factors, age , intelligence, frustration, are a few, I think culture and the uses of language can be misunderstood or doesn’t translate well.

Even comedy doesn’t travel well and can be an area that is taboo in some places and acceptable in others .

But direct assault , be it verbally or real threats should be dealt with and are .

I believe toxicity is often used as a weapon to intimidate and is encouraged by some groups , not to name names .  
After all we do play a violent game , gloves are off most of the time.

If you don’t like someone’s actions report them to ccp they have the unenviable task of dealing with these people, so don’t cry here if you think someone is being a meanie and going to far report them if you don’t report them shut up .

We are not interested in supposition and what you think .

(Please note most of the above is not directed at Aiko her self , I just started to ramble as always 🤔)

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1580 "2022-03-27T06:11:21Z")

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Githany, ignoring the bigotry that exists makes you complicit in it.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1581 "2022-03-27T06:13:50Z")

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Yeah that ganker alt above, with the bait comment.

> [@Lilath\_Pynnor](#):
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> Some people say he gave it to her for nudes

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1582 "2022-03-27T06:15:02Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Githany, ignoring the bigotry that exists makes you complicit in it.

Perceived bigotry rather than real , I’m sure they are not the same thing

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1583 "2022-03-27T06:19:59Z")

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No, we _literally_ have people making veiled transphobic insults and teaching homophobes how to get away with their insults in a way that wouldn’t catch moderator attention. This isn’t like you failing to kill someone, and them telling you “lol you suck! get back to the kitchen!” which at least _could_ be interpreted as an attempt at humor.

What we have here is people engaging in genuine bigotry, and you’re ignoring that because those people support you and you don’t want to lose that support. In a way, that’s even _less_ moral than what _those_ people are doing. Maybe they’re acting this way because they simply haven’t been educated enough not to, but you’re personally _aware_ of this behavior, and choose to ignore it because it suits your goals.

Is this what you want to be known for?

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1584 "2022-03-27T06:32:16Z")

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What I’m known for is again perception and to tell you the truth, I don’t care what people think because I know how I act is within the bounds I set.

Just because a snowflake gets upset by labelling them he she or fox , why should I be concerned, my path is true to me and how I act.

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/criminals-and-gank-failures/334769/1585 "2022-03-27T06:33:28Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> your groups house’s some of the most toxic people gaming has seen

Pots and kettles, all on the same fire.

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