# Crimson Harvest Criterion Cipher not dropping! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 16, 2026, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/crimson-harvest-criterion-cipher-not-dropping/520339 "2026-10-16T22:14:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nekay\_Yaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nekay_yaken/32/446647_2.png) [@Nekay\_Yaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nekay_Yaken)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/crimson-harvest-criterion-cipher-not-dropping/520339/1 "2026-10-16T22:14:37Z")
Anyone had the same issue? I have scanned over 150 Crimson sites in Null Sec. Surely the RNG can’t be that bad where not 1 single Criterion Cipher has dropped?! I tried asking but I got AI’d, are AI responses the norm now? ---
**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/514743_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/crimson-harvest-criterion-cipher-not-dropping/520339/2 "2026-10-16T22:28:33Z")
yeah. ---
**Author:** ![igRaVeN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/igraven/32/499459_2.png) [@igRaVeN](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/igRaVeN)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/crimson-harvest-criterion-cipher-not-dropping/520339/3 "2026-10-17T01:35:18Z")
I’ve got 1. But it was from doing gauntlets (i think or an escalation from those.) I do agree tho that the loot drops from these event sites seems really low. Maybe because im doing them in high sec it’s giving me low-tier loot - idk. I definitely lost the hype of this after the second day. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/crimson-harvest-criterion-cipher-not-dropping/520339/4 "2026-10-17T13:56:57Z")
> [@igRaVeN](#): > > Maybe because im doing them in high sec it’s giving me low-tier loot What do you mean “maybe”? The sites pay dramatically better in low and null, and the ones in the high value constellations pay 5-10 times that. ---
**Author:** ![igRaVeN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/igraven/32/499459_2.png) [@igRaVeN](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/igRaVeN)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/crimson-harvest-criterion-cipher-not-dropping/520339/5 "2026-10-17T16:01:50Z")
> [@Namdor](#): > > The sites pay dramatically better in low and null, and the ones in the high value constellations pay 5-10 times that. I dont see that anywhere in the patch notes but OK. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/crimson-harvest-criterion-cipher-not-dropping/520339/6 "2026-10-17T16:18:45Z")
Do patch notes need to explicitly detail that rewards are better outside of high sec? That is generally a given. ---
**Author:** ![igRaVeN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/igraven/32/499459_2.png) [@igRaVeN](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/igRaVeN)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/crimson-harvest-criterion-cipher-not-dropping/520339/7 "2026-10-17T16:29:35Z")
Well… you’re writing as if it’s a stated fact not just general knowledge. I’m just saying the loot seems terrible this time around because I was making 100M every 10 mins in high sec during one past event and these loot rewards seem terrible compared to that. For example: I’m not even getting regular blue-loot like items (i.e. Overseer Sabik Vial that you turn in/sell at DED stations) when I finish sites. ---
**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/514743_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/crimson-harvest-criterion-cipher-not-dropping/520339/8 "2026-10-17T20:16:57Z")
i have been getting the warclones and sabik vials ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2026, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/crimson-harvest-criterion-cipher-not-dropping/520339/9 "2026-10-18T21:39:03Z")
Assuming you mean the crimson gauntlets and now the hacking sites, they don’t drop from the site itself, they are a rare chance as a drop from NPC’s who spawn through a rift when you end a room in either the crimson gauntlet or tetrimon base, if you’re skipping room 2 and just using the shortcut key then you’re reducing your chances of finding a cypher as each room has a chance to spawn a rift when its completed, the data sites afaik do not have a chance to drop them ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2026, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/crimson-harvest-criterion-cipher-not-dropping/520339/10 "2026-10-18T22:28:15Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > the data sites afaik do not have a chance to drop them They’re a possible drop from the bioadaptive cache spawns in data sites. Not a very inspiring drop rate, though.