# Cruisers now almost useless, thanks to Navy Destroyers **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [November 9, 2022, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673 "2022-11-09T09:01:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Un\_tamed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/un_tamed/32/342382_2.png) [@Un\_tamed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Un_tamed)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/183 "2022-11-18T09:11:58Z")
@Gix_Firebrand Your behavior on this forum is deplorable, no matter how many of these you put in your posts, youโ€™re just a sonofbitch. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/184 "2022-11-18T09:47:13Z")
I mean locator agents exist? You can always come find me ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Un\_tamed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/un_tamed/32/342382_2.png) [@Un\_tamed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Un_tamed)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/185 "2022-11-18T09:47:39Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > You can always come find me And step in โ– โ– โ– โ– ? No thanks ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/186 "2022-11-18T09:51:57Z")
Oh. So just hiding behind an alt. I notice you edited your post ๐Ÿ˜ƒ I guess you can wait to get your hands on me huh? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/188 "2022-11-18T10:01:34Z")
Oh ick. You meant like in real life? Sigh. Another person who canโ€™t tell the difference between vidya game and real life. I pity you bro ๐Ÿ˜ƒ Me? A coward? ROFL. Here I stand on my main as you hide behind an alt. That speaks for itself my guy ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/189 "2022-11-18T10:25:54Z")
Donโ€™t bring RL into this you can get your account in a bad position its not worth it. P.S. There are a lot of crazies in here you really donโ€™t want to meet some of them. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/190 "2022-11-18T10:35:35Z")
He is one of them bruv ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/192 "2022-11-18T11:05:11Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > The shame of your crying is yours alone sis ๐Ÿ˜ƒ Your activity in this thread/forum begs to differ. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/193 "2022-11-18T17:24:31Z")
Weโ€™re scared bro. Truly ๐Ÿ˜ƒ You are so tough ๐Ÿ˜ƒ > [@Verlyn](#): > > Your activity in this thread/forum begs to differ. Oh? How so? Because I pointed the truth out to you? You took a bad fight and got blapped. Tale as old as EVE ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/194 "2022-11-18T18:10:02Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Oh? How so? Because I pointed the truth out to you? > > You took a bad fight and got blapped. > > Tale as old as EVE You keep replying to my cries, Im not so lonely afterall. Undock from Bhizheba and come fight in lowsec !! You know where to find me. ๐Ÿฅฐ ---
**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/195 "2022-11-18T18:34:11Z")
tale as old as amarr ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/196 "2022-11-18T20:23:02Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > You keep replying to my cries, Im not so lonely afterall. > > Undock from Bhizheba and come fight in lowsec !! > > You know where to find me. Iโ€™m in low all the time? I have no desire to fight somoene who cries so much LOL. You arenโ€™t worth the time sis. And Iโ€™m currently grinding amarr standings sadly so I can use locater agents in every Empire ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/197 "2022-11-18T22:58:31Z")
Posting Reply. > [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > You arenโ€™t worth the time sis. Aparently, after nearly a 200 reply thread later, it _probably_ turns out I am. Youโ€™ve given more time talking about me in this thread than you ever could spend with me ingame. Quite a feat, want to go on ? I can go on, can you ? ---
**Author:** ![Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nujenif_talvanen/32/433113_2.png) [@Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nujenif_Talvanen)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/198 "2022-11-18T23:12:22Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > Aparently, after nearly a 200 reply thread later, it _probably_ turns out I am. XD gottem ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/199 "2022-11-19T00:31:12Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > Aparently, after nearly a 200 reply thread later, it _probably_ turns out I am. Worth it to farm you for content on the forum and provide me with laughs? Absolutely ๐Ÿ˜ƒ Worth wasting my gaming time on? Absolutely not ๐Ÿ˜ƒ > [@Nujenif\_Talvanen](#): > > XD gottem Youโ€™re new here I feel, trust me when I say her takes are always bad ๐Ÿ˜ƒ Just look at her post history ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/200 "2022-11-19T09:36:41Z")
Zero sum game. We farm eachother because I find you so ridiculously dense and your personality makes me laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/201 "2022-11-19T11:35:53Z")
Mm dunno about that bruv ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/202 "2022-11-19T12:06:42Z")
Ah so are we claiming to know all that goes on inside my head now ? Presumptuous Git I mean Gix, to the end ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/203 "2022-11-19T20:04:45Z")
I have a pretty fair idea ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Maeltstome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maeltstome/32/515012_2.png) [@Maeltstome](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maeltstome)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/204 "2022-11-24T18:41:48Z")
I remember a long time ago making a thread about the newly buffed stabber, during the removal of the tier system for ships. Even with a falloff bonus it couldnโ€™t out-DPS a hurricane at 24km (the maximum range of a T2 warp disruptor). It did terrible damage, didnโ€™t have the fitting to use big guns and didnโ€™t have the slot layout to solve any of these problems. The Vexor on the other hand was phenomenal after Drone Damage Amps came out and had to be nerfed. I really donโ€™t know where cruisers sit right now. Itโ€™s beenโ€ฆ 14 years? since we nerfed the nano-craze, and it was done so heavy handidly that anything larger than a frigate canโ€™t realistically use speed to mitigate damage from larger ships (ignoring 2.5billion HALO implant sets). I donโ€™t want to push power creep, but we really donโ€™t see cruisers being used as much as they should. I donโ€™t know what the solution is. They are fragile, MOSTLY donโ€™t have amazing DPS and have trouble fitting good setups due to PG/CPU restrictions. Add on to that - medium weapons have been made significantly worse against frigates and youโ€™re left with ships that die to everything and only do well against each other. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673.md?page=11)