# Cruisers now almost useless, thanks to Navy Destroyers **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [November 9, 2022, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673 "2022-11-09T09:01:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/103 "2022-11-16T08:33:50Z")
Cruisers are still better just fly it well, you have medium neut which neuts out desi’s quickly use it to pull range, medium weapons do much more damage from range no need to sit 0 where it can get under your guns. Destroyers have always been pure dps machines but their tank is nothing great a battle ship can die to a harpy: does not mean the harpy is op. Also as a side note the alliance tournament teams have access to the navy desi’s but I don’t recall seeing many so far. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/104 "2022-11-16T08:34:28Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > You can’t bypass it to my knowledge. It’s automatically tied to your character. Or have you figured out some way to bypass between 2013 and 2021 ? If so please do tell, some losses on mine I’d rather they not show, and I can think of a particular one … LOL … 😅 Wut. It totally isn’t? You realize you gotta opt in to zkills right? And yea, I didn’t play between 13-21. Never hid that? Damn, I’m seeing more and more skill issues here 😃 > [@Verlyn](#): > > Meet us first, contract after. I mean, you ARE still doing this right ? Then what’s the problem ? I’ll always accept the gift of free stuff 😃 > [@Verlyn](#): > > Right 😅 I am? Unlike you, when I lose a ruppie I don’t make an entire cry thread about it 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/105 "2022-11-16T08:52:35Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > I’ll always accept the gift of free stuff 😃 Sooo, what time/day are you available this weekend ? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/106 "2022-11-16T09:27:05Z")
Unsure yet, and still debating if it’s a trap 😃 Some of us got jobs mate 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/107 "2022-11-16T10:00:53Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Unsure yet, and still debating if it’s a trap 😃 Well, technically, it is, but a consensual one where you know your adversaries. XD Take as long as you want. Until then, you are still just bark bark. > [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Some of us got jobs mate 😃 Are you always this condescending IRL as well ? People must really love you. fyi, some of us work from home 100%. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/108 "2022-11-16T10:08:38Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > Well, technically, it is, but a consensual one where you know your adversaries. XD > > Take as long as you want. Until then, you are still just bark bark. You seem to be under the opinion that I care about your opinion of me? You are wrong 😃 Unlike you, my ego isn’t involved in pixels ROFL. > [@Verlyn](#): > > Are you always this condescending IRL as well ? People must really love you. > > fyi, some of us work from home 100%. That’s nice? And some of us don’t? I get you the game and RL confused tho 😃 Who cares what I’m like in real life? You’re dealing with Gix Firebrand bruv 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/109 "2022-11-16T10:10:44Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > You seem to be under the opinion that I care about your opinion of me? > > You are wrong 😃 > > Unlike you, my ego isn’t involved in pixels ROFL. Either your next reply is a time this weekend (via ingame channel, not here obv). Or you contradict yourself by replying yet another “I dont care but yet i still post” reply … ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/110 "2022-11-16T10:12:57Z")
Not really? That’s rules you’re attempting to impose on the conversation 😃 And also an _opinion_, not a fact 😃 Why? I’m not playing right now? I’m certainly not going to stop what I’m doing just to log in to assuage your loneliness by talking to you in game 😃 Oh sis. I don’t care. You still don’t realize what’s going on here, do you 😃 Oh man. That was a gift 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/111 "2022-11-16T10:16:25Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Bark Fixed ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/112 "2022-11-16T10:17:20Z")
I get why you can’t refute it, even if you don’t understand what’s happening. Much like you don’t understand why your ruppie died 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/113 "2022-11-16T10:19:18Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Narcissist’s Bark Input Fixed 2.0 ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/114 "2022-11-16T10:20:05Z")
Huh. A medical diagnosis, sight unseen. Interesting 😃 Could you share with me what qualifies you to make that diagnosis? ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/115 "2022-11-16T10:28:58Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Could you share with me what qualifies you to make that diagnosis? See above : > [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > I’m not too concerned with the opinion tho 😃 > [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Oh sis. I don’t care. You still don’t realize what’s going on here, do you 😃 > [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > You seem to be under the opinion that I care about your opinion of me? > > You are wrong 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/116 "2022-11-16T10:38:27Z")
Oh. So you have no qualifying experience to say that. Got it 😃 Sis, you seem to be laboring the impression that if I post, I care about your opinion? Oh my sweet summer chile. You are providing _content_ for me 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Bedlam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/total_bedlam/32/341964_2.png) [@Total\_Bedlam](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Total_Bedlam)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/117 "2022-11-16T10:45:47Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > sweet summer chile Isn’t that a South American dish with beans? ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/118 "2022-11-16T10:49:17Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Self-satisfying Content Fixed 3.0 ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/119 "2022-11-16T10:56:33Z")
> [@Total\_Bedlam](#): > > Isn’t that a South American dish with beans? Unsure, not a fan of beans 😃 > [@Verlyn](#): > > Fixed 3.0 LOL I love this is all you have left. Thank you for conceding 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/120 "2022-11-16T10:59:04Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > LOL I love this is all you have left. > > Thank you for conceding 😃 What’s left to give back to but an empty shell really ? All bark, no bite, so far. My offer and conditions still stand. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Bedlam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/total_bedlam/32/341964_2.png) [@Total\_Bedlam](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Total_Bedlam)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/121 "2022-11-16T11:05:45Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Unsure, not a fan of beans My bad, I thought you wrote Chili 😅 ![chili-con-carne-11](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/f/b/5fbbbe26f55497da34644b61f4873ae83b999323.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673/122 "2022-11-16T17:22:14Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > What’s left to give back to but an empty shell really ? > > All bark, no bite, so far. LOL, its amazing how much of your emotion is invested in these pixels bruv 😃 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cruisers-now-almost-useless-thanks-to-navy-destroyers/383673.md?page=7)