# CSM 15: Alexis Finch - Representing New Players in Nullsec **URL:** \ **Category:** CSM Campaigns\ **Created:** [May 12, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568 "2020-05-12T13:00:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![n0rman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/n0rman/32/207133_2.png) [@n0rman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/n0rman)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/21 "2020-05-20T23:26:54Z")
For inactivity. And yet, somehow, she’s still more useful than you or Aquilia were 😉 If you’d like to complain about the lack of “vision” in her platform, feel free, but don’t pretend to have any idea what goes on in BRAVE beyond what you guys heard while shitting up comms. ---
**Author:** ![n0rman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/n0rman/32/207133_2.png) [@n0rman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/n0rman)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/22 "2020-05-20T23:27:41Z")
To put this another way, if Aquilia hadn’t made a bunch of false statements in his original post, I wouldn’t have replied. Stick to facts. ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Deferens01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_deferens01/32/261030_2.png) [@Vas\_Deferens01](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Deferens01)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/23 "2020-05-20T23:35:16Z")
Yeah man, because that’s what I wanted to do in this game, be useful to Brave lol. I’m not in Brave so I don’t care what you guys do internally. So if we stick to the facts, I don’t think she would make a good candidate because she has no idea what she wants to change as she stated in her post. And If PvP is in her heart she should probably do it more often considering her zkill is barren ---
**Author:** ![Dunk\_Dinkle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dunk_dinkle/32/319804_2.png) [@Dunk\_Dinkle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dunk_Dinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/24 "2020-05-20T23:36:17Z")
![throw-shade](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/c/6c4a30fbc321da29306db717c08fc2b807df08d2.gif) ---
**Author:** ![n0rman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/n0rman/32/207133_2.png) [@n0rman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/n0rman)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/25 "2020-05-20T23:36:27Z")
She has pretty much exactly as many kills as Aquilia over the last few months. ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Deferens01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_deferens01/32/261030_2.png) [@Vas\_Deferens01](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Deferens01)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/26 "2020-05-20T23:37:20Z")
Great, so no experience ---
**Author:** ![n0rman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/n0rman/32/207133_2.png) [@n0rman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/n0rman)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/27 "2020-05-20T23:39:02Z")
If you’re making the case that only folks with great killboards are allowed on CSM, feel free. As far as I’m aware, that’s not a requirement. Anyone can F1 on a fleet. It’s not a measure of their interest in improving the game. ---
**Author:** ![Aquilia\_Concordia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aquilia_concordia/32/400663_2.png) [@Aquilia\_Concordia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aquilia_Concordia)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/28 "2020-05-20T23:41:08Z")
> Aquilia hadn’t made a bunch of false statements in his original post The only one of my arguments you have made any attempt to dismantle is that a dozen people left incredible after she joined. I will give that to you, it was around 5-6 so I hyperbolised that but the principle of the point i was making still stands. Apart from that, I dont care if she has the same amount of recent PVP kills as i do in recent months. Im not campaigning for the CSM with one of the core parts of it being interest in PVP. As for me not doing anything in brave, I essentially single handidly ran the blops sig for about half my time in brave, but that doesnt count for anything when it doesnt push the narrative you want, does it? > kicked from 5TEAK, presumably for inactivity? Oh look making guesses on the internal structure of another corporation. Weird, i thought you didnt like that based on… > don’t pretend to have any idea what goes on in BRAVE beyond what you guys heard while shitting up comms. So yeah. If you want to call my argument ■■■■■■■■ go on ahead, but you cant disprove 1/12th of it and proudly exclaim how everything I said is a lie. ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Deferens01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_deferens01/32/261030_2.png) [@Vas\_Deferens01](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Deferens01)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/29 "2020-05-20T23:42:33Z")
My man, if she’s gonna say she’s a PvP focused pilot, her Killboard is a valid metric because that at least shows a history of her activity. I don’t care if it’s a bunch of losses but it’s empty. ---
**Author:** ![n0rman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/n0rman/32/207133_2.png) [@n0rman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/n0rman)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/30 "2020-05-20T23:44:42Z")
> [@Aquilia\_Concordia](#): > > it was around 5-6 so I hyperbolised that but the principle of the point i was making still stands. It was one. > [@Aquilia\_Concordia](#): > > As for me not doing anything in brave, I essentially single handidly ran the blops sig for about half my time in brave, but that doesnt count for anything when it doesnt push the narrative you want, does it? Given the success of the blops sig under that tenure, I’d say that is a correct statement. > [@Aquilia\_Concordia](#): > > Oh look making guesses on the internal structure of another corporation. Weird, i thought you didnt like that based on… Why were you kicked? ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Deferens01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_deferens01/32/261030_2.png) [@Vas\_Deferens01](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Deferens01)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/31 "2020-05-20T23:46:09Z")
He wasn’t kicked, this is coming from me, a director in the Corp. ---
**Author:** ![n0rman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/n0rman/32/207133_2.png) [@n0rman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/n0rman)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/32 "2020-05-20T23:46:26Z")
He was kicked. ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Deferens01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_deferens01/32/261030_2.png) [@Vas\_Deferens01](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Deferens01)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/33 "2020-05-20T23:47:05Z")
He was kicked from 5TEAK ---
**Author:** ![n0rman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/n0rman/32/207133_2.png) [@n0rman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/n0rman)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/34 "2020-05-20T23:47:19Z")
Yes, that’s what I said. ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Deferens01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_deferens01/32/261030_2.png) [@Vas\_Deferens01](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Deferens01)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/35 "2020-05-20T23:47:40Z")
than I can tell you, that is factually false lmao ---
**Author:** ![n0rman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/n0rman/32/207133_2.png) [@n0rman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/n0rman)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/36 "2020-05-20T23:48:02Z")
It turns out you know about as much as how 5TEAK is run, as you do about how BRAVE is run. ---
**Author:** ![Prolific\_Director](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prolific_director/32/174340_2.png) [@Prolific\_Director](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prolific_Director)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/37 "2020-05-20T23:48:57Z")
> [@n0rman](#): > > Given the success of the blops sig under that tenure, I’d say that is a correct statement. the two blops sig fleets i went on with aquilia, we killed shitfit krabs in provi and had fun, and tackled two rorquals on the other one, almost killing the first one. those were both more effective and fun than any of the ones alexis didn’t run. > [@n0rman](#): > > Why were you kicked? he wasn’t. he left because he was taking a break from the game. > [@n0rman](#): > > It turns out you know about as much as how 5TEAK is run, as you do about how BRAVE is run. he is literally a director. why are you making a bunch of false statements? ---
**Author:** ![n0rman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/n0rman/32/207133_2.png) [@n0rman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/n0rman)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/38 "2020-05-20T23:50:23Z")
You can post on your 5TEAK account Wyeck. ---
**Author:** ![Prolific\_Director](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prolific_director/32/174340_2.png) [@Prolific\_Director](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prolific_Director)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/39 "2020-05-20T23:51:19Z")
im trying how the ■■■■ do i log out ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Deferens01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_deferens01/32/261030_2.png) [@Vas\_Deferens01](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Deferens01)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-alexis-finch-representing-new-players-in-nullsec/240568/40 "2020-05-20T23:52:09Z")
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