# \[CSM 15\] Gobbins

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-gobbins/240816>\
**Category:** CSM Campaigns\
**Tags:** null-sec, new-player\
**Created:** [May 13, 2020, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-gobbins/240816 "2020-05-13T11:20:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Synil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synil/32/276766_2.png) [@Synil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synil)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-gobbins/240816/34 "2020-05-14T22:26:30Z")

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still waiting for your propositions about conflicts driver btw, you talk a lot but the only thing you said was :

> [@Xenuria for CSM 15](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/xenuria-for-csm-15/235898/18):
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> Specificity is important and I’m not a subject matter expert on moons or passive income. Like I said there are smarter people than me who can give you a big wall of text on this. Even if I had some “idea” for a “conflict driver” that thing whatever it was would have to work with existing systems, mechanics and metas. You don’t show up to CSM, give a presentation and then pat the development team on the shoulder before they rush off to implement your master stroke.

a CSM member act as a lobbyist at least Gobbins and some others have a vision how thing should work even if CCP aren’t gonna include everything they said if a lot of CSM member say the same thing that’s certainly gonna impact their actions, i’m not a fan of PH or any other nullbloc but his ideas about conflicts are interesting, from you i got this

> [@Xenuria for CSM 15](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/xenuria-for-csm-15/235898/15):
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> War = good

even if in the end a wall of text or something this simple aren’t gonna change something, if i had to choose the “conflict guy” would win easilly

for what it’s worth i find your judgement displaced as a goon member, even Mittani recognize there no reason to fight any big bloc because the gamedesign prevent that, why that should change for Panfam or Legacy ?

and it’s not just the “Null bloc” even us as a small NS alliance we don’t need to fight anymore because we already have sov and a lot of moons, soo we wait until someone kick us out and we will fight and conquer our new home, there no reason to fight when you don’t need a home, even if you have a lot of target

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