# CSM 15: Jurius Doctor - Let's grow the game! **URL:** \ **Category:** CSM Campaigns\ **Created:** [April 27, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005 "2020-04-27T19:39:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/21 "2020-05-14T09:34:39Z")
> [@Tasoji\_Ihirosato](#): > > Goonswarm (and subsequently their “pet” Nulsechnya Schlopen). You do realize that NSH is allied with PanFan, right? ---
**Author:** ![Jurius\_Doctor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jurius_doctor/32/243354_2.png) [@Jurius\_Doctor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jurius_Doctor)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/22 "2020-05-15T00:22:21Z")
> [@Tasoji\_Ihirosato](#): > > So ultimately despite your experience in the past, you are now essentially just another candidate for the lumbering monstrosity that is Goonswarm. Putting yet more power and sway in the hands of a group that overwhelmingly gets to direct the conversation on the CSM and the game as a whole. Your intentions may be good, but not when Goonswarm is pulling the strings or whispering in your ear. You seem to provide much to the community through various channels, perhaps you should continue to do so, and move aside so to allow the CSM room for opinions other then that of the big blue doughnut. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/a/1a87ea955a1b75e9ebff7abba66bf6d287e738cd.gif) “Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.” ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/23 "2020-05-15T00:44:11Z")
That’s not much of a rebuttal. ---
**Author:** ![Jurius\_Doctor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jurius_doctor/32/243354_2.png) [@Jurius\_Doctor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jurius_Doctor)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/24 "2020-05-15T01:08:43Z")
No, but sometimes statements are made in such error that to refute them takes infinitely more effort than shaking your head, smiling, and walking away. However, since you asked and this is a public forum Xeux, I will rebut the statement point-by-point: > [@Tasoji\_Ihirosato](#): > > We find it interesting that you choose to promote yourself as a moderate candidate Thank you > [@Tasoji\_Ihirosato](#): > > notably highlighting your work with Eve University An experience I deeply enjoyed and benefitted from. I am still converting their series of Core Courses into videos, and making a video on [the Magic 14](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/The_Magic_14). > [@Tasoji\_Ihirosato](#): > > then on to Iron Armada That’s my fam, man. Of course. I joined Iron for Tridgit and the bros. > [@Tasoji\_Ihirosato](#): > > yet you completely fail to mention that you then went on to Goonswarm I go where Tridgit goes. We reached a point in our gameplay that inevitably any independent alliance reaches when you’re put in a position where a limited and insanely dedicated team of FCs carry the production of content for your alliance and subsequently burn out. We were tapped, as a group, and needed a comfy couch to crash on and rebuild our will to play, our war chests, and our desire to return to doing the absolutely cancer sov/entosis gameplay we enjoy. There is no better organization in EVE Online for making money in relative safety than Goons, so hell yes we went to Imperium. We also left less than six months later; vacation over. > [@Tasoji\_Ihirosato](#): > > (and subsequently their “pet” Nulsechnya Schlopen) Look at zKill and tell me which side of the fights is Iron.Guard on, and which side are Goonswarm Federation on? (I’ll get you an updated battle report) > [@Tasoji\_Ihirosato](#): > > So ultimately despite your experience in the past, you are now essentially just another candidate for the lumbering monstrosity that is Goonswarm. See previous comments. > [@Tasoji\_Ihirosato](#): > > Putting yet more power and sway in the hands of a group that overwhelmingly gets to direct the conversation on the CSM and the game as a whole. Actually of my entire recommended slate - to which I am currently creating a video for my campaign - only 2 candidates out of 10 belongs to a major nullsec bloc. Myself (indirectly, via PanFam) and Brisc Rubal (The Initiative, via Imperium). > [@Tasoji\_Ihirosato](#): > > Your intentions may be good, but not when Goonswarm is pulling the strings or whispering in your ear. I’ve seen this kind of _Grrr Goons_ wacky-flailing-arm-inflatable-tube-man impression before. It never fails to make me laugh. Having ever been a member of the Imperium doesn’t taint you anymore than ever having been a member of BOB contaminated someone back before the Fountain War. This kind of calamitous hyperbole is typically the first resort of someone who can’t be bothered to invest themselves enough in the game to know what they’re talking about. > [@Tasoji\_Ihirosato](#): > > You seem to provide much to the community through various channels Thank you, I like to think so. > [@Tasoji\_Ihirosato](#): > > perhaps you should continue to do so I plan to. > [@Tasoji\_Ihirosato](#): > > and move aside so to allow the CSM room for opinions other then that of the big blue doughnut. No ■■■■■■■ way, because I have an even bigger problem with the oversaturation of CSM with nullsec representatives than you do. Fight me. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/25 "2020-05-15T01:17:12Z")
Nice explanation. Makes sense. Please be aware that there are some old players (like me) that remember the original Goonswarm. Goons lied and scammed people a lot, including corps trying to join them. Although the Goonswarm of today is barely recognizable, some of us have trouble letting go of our prejudices of the past. Perhaps it isn’t Goonswarm fault, but I am not the only person with a ten year grudge against those clowns. ---
**Author:** ![Jurius\_Doctor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jurius_doctor/32/243354_2.png) [@Jurius\_Doctor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jurius_Doctor)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/26 "2020-05-15T01:26:41Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > Although the Goonswarm of today is barely recognizable, some of us have trouble letting go of our prejudices of the past. Perhaps it isn’t Goonswarm fault, but I am not the only person with a ten year grudge against those clowns. That’s fair and I completely appreciate that it’s hard to let go of passionately established convictions, but for anyone to be effective in CSM, in diplo, and in community building they need to be able to see past that and work with others. I’m trying to do that, but I’m also passionate about the EVE Community – all of the EVE community, even Goons, Frat, etc – and I get kind of defensive when people start trying to stir the pot just to get a reaction or - worse - because they actually believe the vitriol they’re spewing. ---
**Author:** ![Tridgit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tridgit/32/201754_2.png) [@Tridgit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tridgit)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/27 "2020-05-15T03:52:02Z")
Hello? Tasoji, you are hilariously dumb, if you genuinely think NSH is a goonswarm pet alliance. Do the most modicum of research before spouting off, or you are no better off than any other below average iq opinion mouth ---
**Author:** ![Jurius\_Doctor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jurius_doctor/32/243354_2.png) [@Jurius\_Doctor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jurius_Doctor)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 4:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/28 "2020-05-15T04:36:15Z")
@Elsebeth_Rhiannon I am, for the record, a very pro-Lore and pro-RP candidate. I have run EVE Site-seeing road trips to all of the major sites, including the battle remains of B-R5RB and the wreck of the Seraph. I am also, as you may have noted from Komi’s campaign post and my posts in the Fiction portal, a writer in love with the lore of this game. I have hosted podcast episodes focused on lore and I have participated in preaching that people should read the lore (see [my video on a review of EVE: 2014](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU9ef8Onk94) where I talk about Templar One). ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/29 "2020-05-15T04:37:04Z")
Thank you, I’ll look you up. Pretty sure I’ve read some of your stuff but my memory is a sieve. ---
**Author:** ![Komi\_Valentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/komi_valentine/32/502956_2.png) [@Komi\_Valentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Komi_Valentine)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/30 "2020-05-16T09:18:54Z")
You are an excellent writer for sure, a villain with genius intellect. I feel bad about it, but your stories really move me. ---
**Author:** ![Vapor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vapor/32/356995_2.png) [@Vapor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vapor)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/31 "2020-05-17T15:55:30Z")
Best of luck Jurius D - you’re knowledgeable and smart. Ideal fit for a CSM member. ---
**Author:** ![Rheaha\_Preynar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rheaha_preynar/32/491979_2.png) [@Rheaha\_Preynar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rheaha_Preynar)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/32 "2020-05-19T07:07:33Z")
Hopefully this year will be successful, youre one of the few people that actually might make an impact in the CSM as far as newbro and retention is concerned!!! GOODLUCK Jurius D! ---
**Author:** ![Jurius\_Doctor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jurius_doctor/32/243354_2.png) [@Jurius\_Doctor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jurius_Doctor)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/33 "2020-05-20T21:29:33Z")
> [@Rheaha\_Preynar](#): > > GOODLUCK Jurius D! Thanks, Rheaha! You, too. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jurius\_Doctor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jurius_doctor/32/243354_2.png) [@Jurius\_Doctor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jurius_Doctor)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/34 "2020-05-21T00:49:22Z")
@Mike_Azariah, @Brisc_Rubal, @Xenuria, @Xuxe_Xu, @Xeux I have updated my campaign post with links to my campaign videos (one more to come). See them above, in my original post! ---
**Author:** ![Ikarus\_Cesaille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikarus_cesaille/32/255998_2.png) [@Ikarus\_Cesaille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikarus_Cesaille)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/36 "2020-05-21T08:21:07Z")
Seeing so many similarities to my own campaign in yours we are going to put you on the second position on our ballot and put @Mike_Azariah on the third spot. I honestly do not care who of us gets in as long as one of us at least gets in as i believe each one of us will bring great benefits and insights in the same areas. Keep up the awesome work! ---
**Author:** ![Jurius\_Doctor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jurius_doctor/32/243354_2.png) [@Jurius\_Doctor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jurius_Doctor)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/37 "2020-05-21T08:24:22Z")
Thank you, Ikarus. I am honoured. ---
**Author:** ![Rahne\_Chocolate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rahne_chocolate/32/288812_2.png) [@Rahne\_Chocolate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rahne_Chocolate)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/38 "2020-05-23T18:39:19Z")
+1 JD has my vote and he’s one of my go to for new players and keeping them in the game (my other go to for newbros is Mike Azariah). ---
**Author:** ![Juvenius\_Drakonius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/juvenius_drakonius/32/465769_2.png) [@Juvenius\_Drakonius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Juvenius_Drakonius)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/39 "2020-05-24T14:56:52Z")
I had pleasant conversation with Jurius a few days ago, as a CSM candidates we share many viewpoints on the future of the Game and best steps to move it forward. He is smart, on point and we share a teaching background on new players that I am convinced is essential for new player retention. I’m looking forward to us engaging more in this healthy debates. o/ ---
**Author:** ![Jurius\_Doctor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jurius_doctor/32/243354_2.png) [@Jurius\_Doctor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jurius_Doctor)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/40 "2020-05-24T16:48:25Z")
Thank you, @Rahne_Chocolate and @Juvenius_Drakonius. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Jurius\_Doctor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jurius_doctor/32/243354_2.png) [@Jurius\_Doctor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jurius_Doctor)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005/41 "2020-05-26T21:27:05Z")
Everyone is invited to my Lore Roam on June 7, 2020 at 17:00 EVE time. Details here: > **[Dev Blog | The Lore Sites you should visit in EVE Online](https://imperium.news/lore-sites-to-visit/)** > > In one of her first dev blogs as community developer for EVE Online, CCP Aurora has shared a list of 17 Must-See Lore Locations in EVE Online. This is an excellent start for CCP Aurora, and a great list of places to visit if you've never been! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-jurius-doctor-lets-grow-the-game/236005.md?page=3)