# CSM 15 | Vote for Komi! **URL:** \ **Category:** CSM Campaigns\ **Tags:** roleplay\ **Created:** [May 2, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106 "2020-05-02T12:49:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/115 "2020-05-16T10:12:31Z")
Why should we fight the triglavians? It was capusleers who invaded their worlds and slaughtered them just for fun. Don’t you see that the real problem is the capsuleers? I think a peaceful solution is out of the question. We have to stand up for the little guy and fight. ---
**Author:** ![Aiden\_Killiany](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_killiany/32/205319_2.png) [@Aiden\_Killiany](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_Killiany)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/116 "2020-05-16T15:13:51Z")
Wasnt the entire point of the triglavians entry in this game was them fighting the sleepers? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/117 "2020-05-16T15:29:37Z")
No . . . I’m pretty sure it was for CCP marketing purposes. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/118 "2020-05-16T16:31:16Z")
> [@Komi\_Valentine](#): > > so if you feel I don’t deserve a seat in the CSM, I would appeal at you to vote for Dutch! Oomph. Kiss of death, getting a recommendation from you. Less likely to vote for him now. He better have a real damn nice good platform because otherwise I’m going to have to assume “he represents something Komi likes” and that’s no good 👎 > [@Komi\_Valentine](#): > > I don’t think violence will solve this conflict. EVE is about conflict. Players thrive on conflict. CCP/CSM want to promote conflict. They are adjusting PVE to make it more PVP-like and basically serve as PVP training to make it easier for players to get into or defend themselves against PVP. Do you not comprehend this? Of course you don’t… your campaign thread, your other forum posts, and your campaign interview in particular have demonstrated… many things I’m not going to say here so as to not get this post flagged 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Alex\_Ph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alex_ph/32/468923_2.png) [@Alex\_Ph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alex_Ph)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/119 "2020-05-16T20:27:40Z")
> [@Ferra\_Orta](#): > > > [@Xuxe\_Xu](#): > > > > Firstly - _nobody_ has taken anyone’s life playing this game. > > There are skeleton crews aboard almost every vessel, many of their lives are forfeit when the ship goes down. > > > [@Xuxe\_Xu](#): > > > > Secondly - That’s something to be proud of? Oh. > > Not everyone is out for blood in New Eden, it’s a sandbox at the end of the day, PvP being the sandbox’ drive or not, you don’t have to shoot other players if you don’t want to. It’s funny because you don’t even know your own lore. Every ship crew has back up medical clones that are at most 3 months out of sync. We can’t talk about it like it’s a “loss of human lives”. ■■■■■■■ lol. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/120 "2020-05-17T10:02:55Z")
I am advocating for Komi’s _right_ to be elegible as a candidate for CSM 15. As long as Komi follows the rules I see no reason otherwise. People can choose to vote for who they wish, and anyone who feels entitled to decide _for_ them (or me) should get the long end of the artillery barrel. This witchunt is becoming a lynchmob… 😠 ---
**Author:** ![Val\_en\_Thielles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/val_en_thielles/32/513176_2.png) [@Val\_en\_Thielles](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Val_en_Thielles)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/121 "2020-05-17T12:11:15Z")
> [@Alex\_Ph](#): > > Every ship crew has back up medical clones that are at most 3 months out of sync. That’s for empire navies only, Don’t ask me why, but that’s how it is. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/122 "2020-05-17T12:13:19Z")
> [@Alex\_Ph](#): > > It’s funny because you don’t even know your own lore. Every ship crew has back up medical clones that are at most 3 months out of sync. We can’t talk about it like it’s a “loss of human lives”. ■■■■■■■ lol. Please post the Official source for this statement. In all my years of being a Capsuleer, I’ve never heard of ship crews having the same luxury. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/123 "2020-05-17T12:19:08Z")
> [@EVE Lore FAQ: clones, poddings, crew deaths and backups](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-lore-faq-clones-poddings-crew-deaths-and-backups/139064): > > Here’s the basics of the lore on these things, as a kind of FAQ, gathered up from the recent, recurring discussions. I am sure I miss something, so please add factoids and references! Please keep clear though what is canon-confirmed and what is your favorite hypothesis. So! The very, very basic is that when you fly in space, you are inside a pod, a capsule, which is a gel filled thingy where you control the spaceship via neural implants. When you die, the capsule kills you, takes a snapshot fr… - People who want to play with the tragedy of crew death tend to assume that while national navies can somehow finance it, cost for backing up all crew would be prohibitive for capsuleers. - Alternatively, they just ignore the national navy crews have regular backups bit completely - it’s only in Frigates of EVE and it’s not a well-known bit of lore on which a lot of other stuff is dependent on. - People who do _not_ want to play with crew death sometimes assume backups for all their crew, because if a national navy can why can’t we. Assuming good escape pods and evacuation measures seem (to me) to be a more common way around it, in accordance to the bit about SoE and crew deaths. This was all I bothered to look for. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/124 "2020-05-17T14:06:17Z")
The only relevant bit I can think of that’s _not_ in that recap of mine is that “clones” in EVE are actually not clones, they are biological constructs built from biomass and/or cadavers that only utilize the original DNA to help build them to your likeness. So basically you might think you’re human, look like a human, feel like a human, but as a capsuleer, are an AI constructed from a mindscan of your previous incarnation inside the brain of a bio-android built from dead people. Welcome to EVE. It’s a cheerful place. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/125 "2020-05-17T14:07:38Z")
Is all this lore compiled somewhere? I can never tell which parts are made up and which parts are legit. (Edit: I don’t mean the stupid lore about the triglavians/drifters/jovians and which race did what stupid thing in parts of space that I will never be allowed to fly in.) ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/126 "2020-05-17T14:10:41Z")
It’s not because 🤷‍♀️ :psyccp:. The Fiction Portal is the best starting point: [https://fiction.eveonline.com/](https://fiction.eveonline.com/) . There’s a book called EVE Source but it only contains parts and is in places re: recent events outdated. (Still pretty good tho.) In-world current news can be found at [https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/](https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/) (bookmark it - since they took the lore newsroll out of the launcher it’s been notoriously hard to stumble on if you don’t already know it’s there). ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/127 "2020-05-17T14:12:03Z")
WTF? That is real? I always wondered what all those IGS posts were referring to. But . . . if CCP isn’t going to promote this **at all** then why do they bother to have news in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/128 "2020-05-17T14:16:50Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > (Edit: I don’t mean the stupid lore about the triglavians/drifters/jovians and which race did what stupid thing in parts of space that I will never be allowed to fly in.) Try tags such as “technology” on the Fiction portal, or the “scientific articles” category. The site’s a bit of a mess (:psyccp:) but it should give you at least some of what you are looking for. But we digress. The Eve Lore Discussion part of the forums is good for questions like this 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/129 "2020-05-17T14:17:40Z")
Komi deserves the bump 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rhys\_Andrard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhys_andrard/32/206242_2.png) [@Rhys\_Andrard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhys_Andrard)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/130 "2020-05-17T17:16:23Z")
I’d have to agree I was enjoying the bounty hunting aspect and it was a nice example of emergent behavior that I think Eve should promote more of. And while I don’t personally really care about the whole Komi good vs. Komi bad argument (I actually like some of her goals, a more vibrant and alive world would be amazing, I just don’t think she’s the best option to pursue those in the CSM) it’s a shame to see what this has become. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/131 "2020-05-17T17:24:31Z")
Ten posts that are off topic or unrelated to CSM Campaigns have been removed. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/132 "2020-05-17T22:24:54Z")
> [@Alex\_Ph](#): > > It’s funny because you don’t even know your own lore. Every ship crew has back up medical clones that are at most 3 months out of sync. What’s sad is that you believe that to be true. [https://fiction.eveonline.com/new-eden/lore](https://fiction.eveonline.com/new-eden/lore) [https://fiction.eveonline.com/new-eden/lore/ship-crew](https://fiction.eveonline.com/new-eden/lore/ship-crew) [https://fiction.eveonline.com/stories/chronicles/hands-of-a-killer](https://fiction.eveonline.com/stories/chronicles/hands-of-a-killer) Basically that chronicle is about a young man signing on as a crew member aboard a Capsuleer ship. The last paragraph of that chronicle: > Four months later, Daren Athaksis was confirmed as one of six-thousand three-hundred and fourteen reported casualties resulting from the destruction of the Apocalypse-class battleship “Dam-Imud.” His post was filled within three days. His family was not notified. Also according to CCP, Capsuleers can also be killed. In the Epic Arcs, there’s a couple of encounter missions where the enemy has been cut off from accessing their clones. For example in the level 1 SoE Epic Arc, Mission 43 - A Call to Trial - the Agent Briefing states: > I want you to go out there, meet Taphos, and kill him in combat. We’ve shut off access to his clones, so he won’t be coming back. ---
**Author:** ![Alex\_Ph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alex_ph/32/468923_2.png) [@Alex\_Ph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alex_Ph)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/133 "2020-05-18T10:39:43Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > Is all this lore compiled somewhere? I can never tell which parts are made up and which parts are legit. > > (Edit: I don’t mean the stupid lore about the triglavians/drifters/jovians and which race did what stupid thing in parts of space that I will never be allowed to fly in.) Yes it is. [EVE Lore FAQ & Lore Resources Megathread - #3 by Arnold\_Kalashnikov](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-lore-faq-lore-resources-megathread/25814/3) here. ---
**Author:** ![Alex\_Ph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alex_ph/32/468923_2.png) [@Alex\_Ph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alex_Ph)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106/134 "2020-05-18T10:42:05Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > > [@Alex\_Ph](#): > > > > It’s funny because you don’t even know your own lore. Every ship crew has back up medical clones that are at most 3 months out of sync. > > What’s sad is that you believe that to be true. > > [https://fiction.eveonline.com/new-eden/lore](https://fiction.eveonline.com/new-eden/lore) > > [https://fiction.eveonline.com/new-eden/lore/ship-crew](https://fiction.eveonline.com/new-eden/lore/ship-crew) > > [https://fiction.eveonline.com/stories/chronicles/hands-of-a-killer](https://fiction.eveonline.com/stories/chronicles/hands-of-a-killer) > > Basically that chronicle is about a young man signing on as a crew member aboard a Capsuleer ship. The last paragraph of that chronicle: > > > Four months later, Daren Athaksis was confirmed as one of six-thousand three-hundred and fourteen reported casualties resulting from the destruction of the Apocalypse-class battleship “Dam-Imud.” His post was filled within three days. His family was not notified. > > Also according to CCP, Capsuleers can also be killed. In the Epic Arcs, there’s a couple of encounter missions where the enemy has been cut off from accessing their clones. For example in the level 1 SoE Epic Arc, Mission 43 - A Call to Trial - the Agent Briefing states: > > > I want you to go out there, meet Taphos, and kill him in combat. We’ve shut off access to his clones, so he won’t be coming back. > [@EVE Lore FAQ: clones, poddings, crew deaths and backups](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-lore-faq-clones-poddings-crew-deaths-and-backups/139064): > > Here’s the basics of the lore on these things, as a kind of FAQ, gathered up from the recent, recurring discussions. I am sure I miss something, so please add factoids and references! Please keep clear though what is canon-confirmed and what is your favorite hypothesis. So! The very, very basic is that when you fly in space, you are inside a pod, a capsule, which is a gel filled thingy where you control the spaceship via neural implants. When you die, the capsule kills you, takes a snapshot fr… Not my fault that they sign up to serve on a Capsuleer’s ship that doesn’t regularly back them up. They signed up for it. Not to mention that they also have their own escape pods that we can’t target at all. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-15-vote-for-komi/237106.md?page=7)