# CSM 16 - All You Need to Know **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** csm, csm16\ **Created:** [April 14, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598 "2021-04-14T14:28:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/185 "2021-04-18T10:34:59Z")
Well i do hight sec man …BUT PVP… high sec pvp exist you know that right?? Mercanaries … suicide ganking mutual wars… and all other types of PVP in high sec… ! and they are legid gameplay styles must be presented ! High sec is not limitedby mikes interests ---
**Author:** ![Emmy\_Chelien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emmy_chelien/32/354594_2.png) [@Emmy\_Chelien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emmy_Chelien)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/186 "2021-04-18T11:20:23Z")
Is there a place where I can read what you have done in CSM 15 and how you felt about it? Preferrably without having to read through a wall of text about scaffolding - like on your blog. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/187 "2021-04-18T14:00:14Z")
People vote for Mike because he is nice, and likeable. Rare Eve traits. ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/188 "2021-04-18T14:56:11Z")
I dont think so actually … there is many people in eve like that … Alot of kindred spirits in eve … i just meet yesterday couple of them in local as well as i know many pvp pilots enough sweet to put me into diabetic coma… i think there must be some other reasons … cause results . I did learn nearly all those names in eve not because of my first hand meeting them , see them on action but because of i see them supported and adverted by CCP… i saw their links and adverts ingame notifications event stuff ect … ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/189 "2021-04-18T15:05:05Z")
Talk is cheap. There are plenty of people in Eve that “talk” nice. Nice people seem to quit Eve shortly after you meet them, or they are just pretending to be nice. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/190 "2021-04-18T15:09:25Z")
I’m nice! ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/191 "2021-04-18T15:10:05Z")
Yes. That always makes me nervous. ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/192 "2021-04-18T17:39:34Z")
I am nice depends on situation…like many other people … being nice in front of injustice , toxicity, clapping the authority in every condition is not being nice … just being double standardised bastard. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/193 "2021-04-18T18:48:40Z")
> [@bluelysian](#): > > I just asked what is it you doing not a rocket science … no need for mass for words You asked him what he does. He told you what he does. So you complain that he used too many words? Talk about a bad-faith argument. > [@bluelysian](#): > > and i do own my ■■■■ always too Sure you do ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/194 "2021-04-18T20:11:58Z")
> [@Emmy\_Chelien](#): > > Is there a place where I can read what you have done in CSM 15 and how you felt about it? Preferrably without having to read through a wall of text about scaffolding - like on your blog. Seem like im not alone . > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > You just made a pile of assumptions about someone and when called out on them you backtracked. > > Id much rather have Mike on the CSM than you. He IS a nice guy and he talks sense. > > He also put work into running, rather than what you are doing; > > “Ive done nothing, but CCP wont make me a CSM. Must be a conspiracy!” Who are you talking to ?and which assumptions ? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/195 "2021-04-18T20:13:48Z")
Apparently yet another modern adult with no introspective skills who lives to blame everyone but themselves. ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/196 "2021-04-18T20:35:38Z")
Who … you telling some serious things about someone and seem like its only me around trying to understand and makse sense of all of this. Who is this ? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/197 "2021-04-18T20:37:26Z")
Best forget it, the language barrier is too great. ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/198 "2021-04-18T20:37:59Z")
I can understand what i read … ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/199 "2021-04-18T20:39:48Z")
Then why are you asking me questions about it? I dont think this line of conversation is productive to the topic. ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/200 "2021-04-18T20:42:24Z")
Yes … pretty much … you read some very negative things about someone making assumptions ,. They you wrote lot of negative things about someone who has no introspective ect ect… But you do intentionally avoid to give persons name … which doesnt make sense … So why did you drop ■■■■ loads of accusations about someone even you cant even dare to mention the name and no courage ? And why did you wrote out of subject messages? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/201 "2021-04-18T20:44:01Z")
> [@bluelysian](#): > > But you do intentionally avoid to give persons name … which doesnt make sense … When you reply to someone and you say “you” it is the person you are replying to that you are talking to. Its you. You know this, why do I have to explain it? > [@bluelysian](#): > > And why did you wrote out of subject messages? Ive been nothing but on topic. Why are you writing these out of subject messages? This conversation was over yesterday. Im not derailing this otherwise good thread by talking to you. Food Day Sir ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/202 "2021-04-18T21:26:31Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > You just made a pile of assumptions about someone and when called out on them you backtracked. > > Id much rather have Mike on the CSM than you. He IS a nice guy and he talks sense. > > He also put work into running, rather than what you are doing; > > “Ive done nothing, but CCP won’t make me a CSM. Must be a conspiracy!” this message is no answer for any other players message you write this … and it seems toxic. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Apparently yet another modern adult with no introspective skills who lives to blame everyone but themselves. as well as this one is not an answer for any particular message… seems like YOU are just ventilating and writing monologues.. are you ok? if you want to talk you can find me in game … my english can be shitty but not my heart ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/203 "2021-04-18T21:29:18Z")
Please stop making off topic replies to me. I wrote to you in response to a comment you made quite some time ago that plenty of others have also felt, and that you have already spoken to. I dont see anything productive in this continued conversation, so please dont ask anything in your reply if you make one, as it will be going unanswered. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/204 "2021-04-18T21:31:40Z")
> [@bluelysian](#): > > Seem like im not alone . Should not being alone in stupid questions somehow make your question less stupid? Emmy’s there’s _literally_ asking Mike to violate NDA. Only CCP can release info on what CSM 15’s done. The CSM’s can’t tell you what they’ve done on CSM 15 until CCP does. And that’s been made clear again and again. And yeah. The exchange you’ve been having w/Ramona makes it even _more_ clear you have no intention of any good-faith discussions, you’re just looking to deflect and play the victim here. So, as I said in another thread recently… damn, but I love the ignore feature. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598.md?page=11)