# CSM 16 - All You Need to Know **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** csm, csm16\ **Created:** [April 14, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598 "2021-04-14T14:28:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/227 "2021-06-09T05:51:28Z")
Well, I voted and after picking my first 4 candidates I seriously considered just submitting that as my vote. Then I decided to fill in the remaining 6 slots with names that I recognized. ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/228 "2021-06-09T08:52:22Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > CCP wants the CSM, even if you conspiracy theorists don’t. Its not a conspiracy theory just because one has an opinion that differ’s from the Great Brisc Rubal. How telling that because someone has an opinion on this program that differs from yours that it must be a conspiracy and not just a differing of opinion. Thank you for making a point - i don’t think you really have as much to offer to new and different conversation. Such a conspiracy. Good luck with your pretend election. ---
**Author:** ![Zanziba\_ar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zanziba_ar/32/448533_2.png) [@Zanziba\_ar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zanziba_ar)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/229 "2021-06-09T10:54:34Z")
All I need to know is thar Rixx Javix is stunning and will be the only vote I care to cast. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/230 "2021-06-09T12:04:22Z")
Any idiot that has attempted at running for CSM, just to do away with it, never makes it on the official ballot. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/231 "2021-06-09T12:34:33Z")
> [@Rekindle](#): > > Its not a conspiracy theory just because one has an opinion that differ’s from the Great Brisc Rubal. > > How telling that because someone has an opinion on this program that differs from yours that it must be a conspiracy and not just a differing of opinion. Thank you for making a point - i don’t think you really have as much to offer to new and different conversation. Such a conspiracy. > > Good luck with your pretend election. You didn’t offer an opinion. You claimed that all of the CSM members have “ulterior motives.” That’s not true. It’s just the same tired old conspiracy theory we hear every year “these guys are all running for dank leaks.” It’s not true, but nothing anybody who has actually served says matters to you guys - you refuse to accept that your views are wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/232 "2021-06-09T15:09:15Z")
Everyone knows that the current CSM/CCP system is less than ideal, especially since it appears that CCP tends to present half developed mechanics and game direction to the CSM and appear to be resistant to changing direction. That being said, past minutes and reports from Dirk, Jin’taan, Brisc and others seem to indicate specific items that were either improved, suggested, or actively squashed by the CSM to the benefit of the entire game and the players. Although it may vary in its effect on different player sections, the CSM is doing its best in trying to improve EVE despite the apparent best efforts of CCP to fight them tooth and nail. I just wish that more of the CSM would spend the time and effort that Brisc and Mike do at least engaging with the whole community at different times. Snarky or not, those two at least represent an important part of the CSM; a rwo way conduit for communication with CCP. Now, if CCP would effectively communicate back with us… ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/233 "2021-06-10T15:53:24Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > It’s just the same tired old conspiracy theory we hear every year “these guys are all running for dank leaks.” It’s not true, but nothing anybody who has actually served says matters to you guys - you refuse to accept that your views are wrong. No you ranting loon - you are putting words in my mouth and I’m holding you to account. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/234 "2021-06-10T16:13:01Z")
> [@Rekindle](#): > > No you ranting loon - you are putting words in my mouth and I’m holding you to account From conspiracy theories to name calling. Not a good look, dude. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/235 "2021-06-10T20:12:04Z")
> [@Rekindle](#): > > ranting loon The birds work for the bourgeoisie. ---
**Author:** ![Othello\_Warspite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/othello_warspite/32/146796_2.png) [@Othello\_Warspite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Othello_Warspite)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/236 "2021-06-11T11:53:02Z")
All I needed to know about the CSM election is that I can’t vote in it anymore. CCP made its choices, and by now, all of my friends have headed for the exits… ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/237 "2021-06-11T13:46:47Z")
> [@Othello\_Warspite](#): > > All of my friends have headed for the exits… That is probably the smart thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![Suki\_Vokkonen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/suki_vokkonen/32/382402_2.png) [@Suki\_Vokkonen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Suki_Vokkonen)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/238 "2021-06-14T18:53:57Z")
Are we suppose to be able to vote once per “account” or once per “email address” ? Because you can have multiple accounts using the same email address, but then you can only vote once. ---
**Author:** ![Nunosh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nunosh/32/378366_2.png) [@Nunosh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nunosh)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/239 "2021-06-14T19:53:44Z")
you vote per account ---
**Author:** ![Jenna\_Corinth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenna_corinth/32/391033_2.png) [@Jenna\_Corinth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenna_Corinth)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/240 "2021-06-28T00:27:18Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > From conspiracy theories to name calling. Not a good look, dude. Now isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black. Not only are you rude in your player interactions, but you appear to be oblivious to the fact you have a hypocritical approach, and put down the very thing you’ve shown yourself to be as CSM. Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/241 "2021-06-28T00:31:52Z")
Evidence? > [@Jenna\_Corinth](#): > > Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Jenna\_Corinth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenna_corinth/32/391033_2.png) [@Jenna\_Corinth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenna_Corinth)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/242 "2021-06-28T00:32:58Z")
That Brisc is rude to other players? Feel free to scroll through his forum post activity and it’s all right there. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/243 "2021-06-28T00:44:02Z")
He’s never been rude to me and I have never seen him to be overly rude to **anyone** so the burden of proof is on you. ---
**Author:** ![Jenna\_Corinth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenna_corinth/32/391033_2.png) [@Jenna\_Corinth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenna_Corinth)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/244 "2021-06-28T00:47:46Z")
You mistake my post as a crusade. I’ve said my piece, others can listen or disregard. Brisc can listen or disregard. The evidence is there in Brisc’s forum history for anyone who wants to look at it, if it wasn’t, then I’d just be creating drama (which I have no interest in doing). ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/245 "2021-06-28T00:53:30Z")
You have said your piece and I respect that. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598/246 "2021-06-28T01:48:31Z")
instead of bombarding two CSM 16 threads about things Brisc may or may not have said… why not just make a forum thread about brisc himself and say all the “possibly false” stuff you are accusing him of. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-16-all-you-need-to-know/305598.md?page=13)