# CSM 17 Information Station! **URL:** \ **Category:** Jita Park\ **Created:** [April 20, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668 "2022-04-20T15:00:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/77 "2022-04-22T07:30:25Z")
Pretend-stupidity as a joke format works only when it stands apart from your regular posts. (Edit: _someone_ has been flagging a response to the clown again. I wonder who keeps doing that.) ---
**Author:** ![Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifi_brin_d_acier/32/316767_2.png) [@Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifi_Brin_D_acier)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/78 "2022-04-22T08:13:29Z")
> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > Only omega accounts can vote Ok I cannot vote 😞 Next year then Thanks Eclipse, don’t have to read about the candidates this time. ---
**Author:** ![Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifi_brin_d_acier/32/316767_2.png) [@Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifi_Brin_D_acier)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/80 "2022-04-22T10:31:32Z")
It not shenenigan, its vote for player reprĂ©sentation. I plan to play in wormhole or Null for pvp only and I want to vote for a person who can make good play time for me in wormhole or Nullsec with good loot and fun. Maybe I pay 7 days Omega for voting only until end of summer. I don’t have my own money I’m too young to have full time work I’m a student. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/82 "2022-04-22T11:13:19Z")
Just Omega pilots (stops ballot stuffing with created alphas. yes, you could create omegas for it, but there’s a cost there) If it’s anything like the other times, voting will be through a website where you rank the people you want to vote for, in the order you’d like your vote applied. It’s an STV system. if the person you want most doesn’t get enough votes, your vote transfers to the second person. and then third and so on. If they get more than enough votes, a fraction of your vote transfers. They got double the votes they needed? Everyone who voted for them gets half a vote transferred to the next person on their ballot. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/83 "2022-04-22T11:27:43Z")
You can comfortably play as alpha in null with the 20 mil sp limit, though youd be restricted to certain ships, it wont disqualify you from having pvp fun. ---
**Author:** ![Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifi_brin_d_acier/32/316767_2.png) [@Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifi_Brin_D_acier)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/84 "2022-04-22T11:34:30Z")
@Steve_Ronuken Thank for explanation. I read about STV system on Wikipedia, I understand the important parts now. > [@Forum\_Alternate](#): > > , still living in the basement of mommy and daddy’s house, eh? No it’s a building we live on the floor 10 its against the law to live in basement here. > [@Forum\_Alternate](#): > > But if you want to play in Null or Wormholes you’re going to need to be Omega if you want to have any fun Yes I will pay for Omega in September when I can start my job. > [@Forum\_Alternate](#): > > Also, you have no money but that’s a nice exosuit you’re sporting on your toon Thank you. I chat with another player for hour or so and he gave me all his things because he said he doesn’t want to play anymore. Now it’s about 3 billion for my personal assets 😃 Yes I am always lucky but not when I play lotto. ---
**Author:** ![Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifi_brin_d_acier/32/316767_2.png) [@Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifi_Brin_D_acier)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/85 "2022-04-22T11:53:50Z")
> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > You can comfortably play as alpha in null with the 20 mil sp limit, though youd be restricted to certain ships, it wont disqualify you from having pvp fun You wrote I can buy Alpha SP and go from 5mil to 20mil SP but not sure I can buy them for near future and I think if I can buy injectors I can pay for Omega instead when I work because now I have Omega ships and and modules I cannot fly and use them until skills are done training. I have to learn much before I can fly those expensive ships anyway. Sorry for this post not being on the topic. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/86 "2022-04-22T11:59:11Z")
Alpha injectors, you can get 10 for less than the price of 1 large skill injector. Also 200 mil less overall. Plus after 5 mil sp, you get less SP for a large skill injector, where as 10 alpha injectors are still 500k sp ---
**Author:** ![Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifi_brin_d_acier/32/316767_2.png) [@Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifi_Brin_D_acier)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/87 "2022-04-22T12:13:54Z")
I will see maybe I have enough things in my inventory that I will not use I can sell and maybe get enough to get Alpha injectors. Thank you for helping and the info. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Swift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_swift/32/381987_2.png) [@CCP\_Swift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Swift)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/88 "2022-04-22T12:46:47Z")
We will also be hosting interviews with CSM candidates as well, so you can make an informed decision! ---
**Author:** ![Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifi_brin_d_acier/32/316767_2.png) [@Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifi_Brin_D_acier)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/89 "2022-04-22T12:49:24Z")
> [@CCP\_Swift](#): > > We will also be hosting interviews with CSM candidates as well, so you can make an informed decision Thank you. When will that be? Where can I watch the interviews? ---
**Author:** ![IImari\_Juutilainen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iimari_juutilainen/32/418824_2.png) [@IImari\_Juutilainen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/IImari_Juutilainen)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/90 "2022-04-22T14:50:55Z")
Reading the posts of CSM peeps such as @Brisc_Rubal or @Dunk_Dinkle and thelike who take time to write up a digest of what is happening in and around the CSM it becomes apparent that working as a member can be not just hard but, looking at the past 2 years, straight out frustrating. Engaging with a company that increasingly relies on microtransactions after bad business decisions - maybe it rightfully is. However, wanting to abolish the CSM as a response to CCP not listening to its members is a bad idea. Having a single sane player representative is better than having none at all, especially after community staff has more or less been effectively driven from the online social spaces that feature the most frequent discussions about the game by the playerbase itself. If I was staff tasked with communicating with reddit as a CCP representative I wouldn’t want to do that either. Be glad that communication is still alive, even if it is considered to be a shadow of its former glory by some. For everything else - just vote with your wallet as whining alone, well
 that ain’t it, chief. ---
**Author:** ![Thew\_Aziz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thew_aziz/32/317083_2.png) [@Thew\_Aziz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thew_Aziz)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/91 "2022-04-22T17:49:55Z")
“or national ID card for those that do not plan to attend the CSM summit in person” - does this mean a passport isnt a requirement to run this year? Different than last year? ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/92 "2022-04-22T17:51:05Z")
yup m ---
**Author:** ![Prospektor\_Schipplock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prospektor_schipplock/32/427968_2.png) [@Prospektor\_Schipplock](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prospektor_Schipplock)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/93 "2022-04-22T20:42:01Z")
Well Swift, how we say it in english, ■■■■ it, ill candidate. Again, and if again is not enough, again ! But for the question you may have, you should hand out a little pamphlet - so every kind of CSM Candiate can prepare for this epic clash of CSM Warriors ! [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/4/f/94fbbb568729fec0a4c2bc29db57dd239c71f8c3.jpeg "Oh dear, Prospektor Schipplock again.... CSM 17") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9MtNVcDLqQ) ---
**Author:** ![Leila\_Kinju](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leila_kinju/32/282750_2.png) [@Leila\_Kinju](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leila_Kinju)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/94 "2022-04-23T06:20:56Z")
Just delete CSM please, it’s a biased useless game of alts. ---
**Author:** ![Vortigern\_Vitalis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vortigern_vitalis/32/455600_2.png) [@Vortigern\_Vitalis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vortigern_Vitalis)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/95 "2022-04-23T12:12:12Z")
Given that an Omega account is the necessary franchise for the CSM elections, one wonders in what state the electoral roll is today after last night’s little announcement on subscription increases and the apparent tsunami of accounts being cancelled? ---
**Author:** ![Adalvear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adalvear/32/317454_2.png) [@Adalvear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adalvear)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/96 "2022-04-23T14:19:58Z")
Despite all you have done for the Community, all the great applications you have made, all the hard work and effort; how can I vote for someone who thinks that anything I ask for, which he disagrees with, makes me an entitled whiny idiot? And the concept “the customer is allways right” may be a terrible idea but there is one worse; why dont I have any customers? And by the way, the sterotypical IT weenie has no bloody clue how to run a business 
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**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/97 "2022-04-23T15:14:01Z")
> [@Adalvear](#): > > how can I vote for someone who thinks that anything I ask for, which he disagrees with, makes me an entitled whiny idiot Because I didn’t say that? You can ask for things. And you can be right to do so. Just that someone asking for things isn’t _always_ right. I’m sure you’ll have seen people on the forums asking for things which you think are dumb. People will disagree about what needs to be done. Sometimes there’s truth in multiple viewpoints, where it’s the balance in belief which is different (see the ganker/miner arguments.) But at the extremes there are people who are flat out _wrong_. (see the people who think that no shooting should be allowed in high-sec.) ---
**Author:** ![Enapiuz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/enapiuz/32/308425_2.png) [@Enapiuz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Enapiuz)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668/98 "2022-04-23T15:22:25Z")
Me to CSM17! I have no big story in EVE, master of nothing, pretty noobish one. I don’t enjoy nullsec so much. So I’m more like a fresh air in the stuffy room. Ideal candidate! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-information-station/358668.md?page=4)