# CSM 17 Summit Review

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**Created:** [February 6, 2023, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-summit-review/394529 "2023-02-06T02:42:28Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-17-summit-review/394529/194 "2023-02-16T07:44:17Z")

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I read at [Ancient Gamin Noob](https://tagn.wordpress.com/2023/02/15/views-on-improving-eve-online-pve-from-the-csm-summit/)’s that the current CSM had a talk about PvE around [Angry Moustache’s PvE concept](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/10zxwfa/csm_summit_presentation_pve_design_driving_pvp/) and as usual the clueless wolves and the clueless shepherds apparently agree that sheeps don’t die often enough. Surprise!

@Brisc_Rubal In a way, i am still waiting all the way since July 2018:

> [@CSM 13 - High Sec Issues/Suggestions/Ideas](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-13-high-sec-issues-suggestions-ideas/84409/342):
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> The CSM summit is over, minutes will be released someday, I’ve re-read the thread and I am waiting to see what did this thread serve for. Like, waiting eagerly.

…and still got nothing.

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