# CSM and CCP, stop screwing us over

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-and-ccp-stop-screwing-us-over/150783>\
**Category:** Assembly Hall\
**Created:** [April 6, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-and-ccp-stop-screwing-us-over/150783 "2019-04-06T01:15:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-and-ccp-stop-screwing-us-over/150783/283 "2020-08-19T17:33:20Z")

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Aww. You didn’t smack me down. Things must really be bad.

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-and-ccp-stop-screwing-us-over/150783/284 "2020-08-19T22:04:34Z")

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Yeah, it’s bad.

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**Author:** ![Layla\_Cross](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/layla_cross/32/243524_2.png) [@Layla\_Cross](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Layla_Cross)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-and-ccp-stop-screwing-us-over/150783/285 "2020-08-27T18:50:08Z")

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> [@Lucious\_Haelstrom](#):
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> Then Remove the PvE from the game entirely… That’s the only way you’re gonna solve this dilemna. Eve will lose players, but i’m sure the standing PvP portion will be sustainable.

People say EvE is a PvP game but I beg to differ. For every 10% of PvP there has to be 90% of PvE… I mean, your ship. Ammo, module’s have to come from somewhere! It’s true PvP is a HUGE part of eve but it’s dwarfed in comparison to the amount of essential PvE that is required to keep the economy going forwards.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-and-ccp-stop-screwing-us-over/150783/286 "2020-11-25T18:50:16Z")

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