# CSM Member Distribution **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 18, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100 "2018-09-18T00:55:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/314 "2018-09-20T11:21:51Z")
> [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](#): > > It shows out of a tiny sample size a majority think it shouldn’t exist in it’s current form or function. Yes. It does show that. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/315 "2018-09-20T11:23:52Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > You then calling my response to OP “False” It was false. Even if there are only 2 coalitions in EVE, nothing would prevent players in neither of those two from running for CSM, thus filling the remaining 8 seats, while both of those coalitions fills one, each. You didnt realize that. The initial proposal for 1 seat max per Corp/Alliance/Coalition was mine in this thread. I introduced it here, and there was nothing “unfriendly” about it. Just an ontopic proposal, and explanation of it. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/316 "2018-09-20T11:27:22Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > The initial proposal for 1 seat max per Corp/Alliance/Coalition was mine in this thread. Like I said, no fucks given on what you post, Salvos. You’re just trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/317 "2018-09-20T11:29:09Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > The initial proposal for 1 seat max per Corp/Alliance/Coalition was mine in this thread. > > Like I said, no fucks given on what you post, Salvos. Fair enough, but your response was false. If there was only 2 coalitions in EVE, with a 1max system, that does not mean there would be only 2 CSM. The remaining 8 seats would be filled by candidates whom are in neither coalition. You made a logic fail. Thats ok, but it was a fail and you should recognize that. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/318 "2018-09-20T11:31:32Z")
The CSM is a direct reflection of the game and community. If there will be people in Imperium that are organized to vote for someone, it will be reflected in votes. As there is no vote for removing CSM mechanism entirely, it is not reflected in pool. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/319 "2018-09-20T11:35:50Z")
A coalition is completely vaguely defined. It’s not like an alliance that one can actually see who is part of it and who is not. So who would define the coalitions? The actual problem is that people not organize and then cry because others do. That’s almost always the issue. And no amount of changing the rules to force an outcome will change that as all this can simply be gamed and it will be gamed by people who again organize and the people who don’t care to do anything will keep crying. This is seriously a completely stupid discussion ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/320 "2018-09-20T11:36:09Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > The remaining 8 seats would be filled by candidates whom are in neither coalition. No. I said specifically “If all of EVE only had two coalitions then we only had two CSM members”. You’ve misread this as “If EVE had two coalitions then we only had two CSM members”. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/322 "2018-09-20T11:37:57Z")
The CSM doesnt represent my interests, thank gods. Can you imagine? So many spikes… So much fire… So cant be bothered ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/323 "2018-09-20T11:40:18Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > No. I said specifically “If all of EVE only had two coalitions then we only had two CSM members”. > > You’ve misread this as “If EVE had two coalitions then we only had two CSM members”. Those are the same. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/324 "2018-09-20T11:41:01Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > [@Whitehound](#): > > > > No. I said specifically “If all of EVE only had two coalitions then we only had two CSM members”. > > > > You’ve misread this as “If EVE had two coalitions then we only had two CSM members”. > > Those are the same. And that’s why you’re a troll. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/325 "2018-09-20T11:43:24Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > > [@Whitehound](#): > > > > > > No. I said specifically “If all of EVE only had two coalitions then we only had two CSM members”. > > > > > > You’ve misread this as “If EVE had two coalitions then we only had two CSM members”. > > > > Those are the same. > > And that’s why you’re a troll. The only difference there was saying " all of EVE", instead of “EVE”. Those mean the same in this context. Accusing me of “trolling” isnt going to change that, and that you overlooked that the remainder of the seats would be filled from outside either coalition. Own your fail, and we can move on. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/326 "2018-09-20T11:45:34Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Accusing me of “trolling” isnt going to change that, But you are. His hypothetical was that all of eve only had two coalitions and then you sprouted on about NPC Corps. In the hypothetical that doesn’t exist. There are only 2 coalitions. Nothing else. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/327 "2018-09-20T11:46:48Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > In the hypothetical that doesn’t exist. There are only 2 coalitions. Nothing else. No, it stated that only 2 coalitions exist. Not that there arent players whom are in neither of those 2 coalitions. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/329 "2018-09-20T11:48:24Z")
Are you sure? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/330 "2018-09-20T11:48:24Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Just stop responding to him and he’ll go away. Just stop lying, making false claims and covering for lies and falsehoods and you wont have to deal with me correcting them. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/331 "2018-09-20T11:48:45Z")
Welcome back @Lucas_Kell. Have missed you and I hope, after the demise of CO2, you’ve found somewhere else to enjoy the game. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/332 "2018-09-20T11:51:24Z")
Next CSM will have 10/10 Imperium candidates. North is completely defeated! Imperium will farm them for content. Fate of north is Rocket League from now or being content for Goons. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/333 "2018-09-20T11:52:32Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Those mean the same in this context. That’s what they mean to you, indeed. The context is however defined by me and not by what only you can understand. When I say “all of EVE” and then follow with another part, then these need to be understood as one and not in parts. I say “all of EVE” to describe the entirety of EVE, meaning all of EVE’s players. And when those players consisted of only two coalitions then we only had two CSM members. This statement then was only made to describe a situation, from which further problems arise and which I’ve made to show that there can be other evils, too. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/334 "2018-09-20T11:52:42Z")
Its pretty hard to argue that CSM is not compromised by ingame politics, when 3/10 CSM are currently tagged GoonWaffe/GSF. CSM, by its edict and white paper founding, should not be affected/influenced by ingame lobbying and politics. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/335 "2018-09-20T11:55:46Z")
So it says that specifically? Can you quote or link that please? Id like to read it. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100.md?page=13) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100.md?page=15)