# CSM Member Distribution

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 18, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100 "2018-09-18T00:55:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/385 "2018-09-20T13:59:43Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> How does one get a tag?

By membership in a Corp and an additional one if that Corp is in an Alliance.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/386 "2018-09-20T14:02:17Z")

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Ok so the two tags are just for varification of corp and/or alliance membership, yeah?

So whats to stop me taking a brown envelope to let Bea McCandless stand for us?

Obv all MACLA members would vote for them.

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**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/387 "2018-09-20T14:02:34Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Imo

Too bad your opinion doesn’t matter when CCP made the rules to their game 😅

F

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**Author:** ![Engelious\_Angelion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/engelious_angelion/32/100486_2.png) [@Engelious\_Angelion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Engelious_Angelion)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/388 "2018-09-20T14:06:25Z")

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Ive just been threw this entire thread, and omg @Salvos_Rhoska never have i met  
at troll on a forum being so active… rare to see someone write so much, with such little meaning…  
I do hope its not some ‘insecurity issue’ u have and there for seek attention, thoug that may be the case.  
Many other forums would tank fully have given u the ‘ban’.

ON SUBJECT:  
im no fan of the CSM, i do think its the wrong format for a player representation.  
focus groups, or some likewise system. even poll’s and votes would be better, as well as actively giving ramdom players questioneers.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/390 "2018-09-20T14:19:08Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> So whats to stop me taking a brown envelope to let Bea McCandless stand for us?

If you have the same tag/s as another candidate, only the one of you with the most votes will get the CSM position, provided that candidate has enough votes to get the position vs all other candidates in EVE.

Example:  
If 2 MACLA tagged players run for CSM, only the one with most votes will get the position, provided they have enough votes to get a CSM position vs all other candidates in EVE in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/391 "2018-09-20T14:24:12Z")

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> [@Engelious\_Angelion](#):
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> never have i met  
> at troll on a forum being so active…

Funny.  
Since I was thinking never have I seen a troll be so inactive as you, with a whole 2 posts to your name in your entire history, the other of which is the one you issued above.

> [@Engelious\_Angelion](#):
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> im no fan of the CSM, i do think its the wrong format for a player representation.

Agreed.

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**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/392 "2018-09-20T15:04:11Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> the one with most votes will get the position,

That defeats the point of the vote system, especially if both were to get more votes than the others…

Lol

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/393 "2018-09-20T15:05:01Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> a section of the forum where we have much tigheter rules on behaviour but with the understanding that CCP will make much more of an effort to discuss things raised there.

VIP section of Player ideas section?  
How would you make it VIP?  
Or maybe its CCP who should designate VIPs by awarding status. 🤔

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/394 "2018-09-20T15:06:14Z")

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> [@Annah\_Tsero](#):
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> That defeats the point of the vote system, especially if both were to get more votes than the others…

Nothing is forcing them to run with the same corp/alliance tag as other candidates.

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**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/395 "2018-09-20T15:08:38Z")

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Nothing is forcing them not to either.

The current system is fine. Organized people will always prevail over unorganized people… Same as any pvp, industry, etc etc

Unless you come up with a legitimate argument (and not another attempt at rolling the wheel), I will not respond to you

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/396 "2018-09-20T15:09:42Z")

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But monoculture was always prone to failure.

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**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/398 "2018-09-20T15:22:07Z")

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I’d limit the places where alphas can post

That would get rid of a lot of low-tier posters

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/399 "2018-09-20T15:36:31Z")

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That is kind of how Frontier runs the E:D forums.

The flipside is far stronger censorship/moderation.

Which isnt a bad thing necessarily, though I suppose that depends on your point of view.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/401 "2018-09-20T15:48:14Z")

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Well Frontier just kick you off the forums for not playing nice so its not hard for them to legislate.

Again freedom or security…

They went with the latter and got a “nicer” enviroment with little content.

EvE for the moment is the opposite.

Tbh what most people have to say on the matter of CSMs is irrelevant. Others have the power and thats that. Just like RL.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/402 "2018-09-20T17:03:00Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> They went with the latter and got a “nicer” enviroment with little content.
> 
> EvE for the moment is the opposite.

Or they can just remove these forums like they have done it to Valkyrie and SPARC forums.

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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/403 "2018-09-20T17:04:04Z")

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> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#):
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> Cause if you did you would have known that when his expenses are higher than incomes then he is losing money… it is pretty simple, really.
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> INCOME - EXPENSE = PROFIT… and negative profit means loss.

… until donations become bigger than expenses.

Then out of the blue Salvos will be right about this particular person earning money off Eve? 😮

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**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/404 "2018-09-20T17:24:12Z")

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Unless they refuse to take any more than they need to pay for their EVE services 😉

This conversation is over, don’t make the salvosbot come again with his lack of understanding

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**Author:** ![Farr\_Arrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/farr_arrow/32/243365_2.png) [@Farr\_Arrow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Farr_Arrow)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/405 "2018-09-20T18:05:45Z")

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Please, **If any pilot disagrees with me on anything,** please attack my ideas and opinions and my thoughts and my dreams. Attack my viewpoint please and please even attack my motives for saying or believing what I say please. I think that I can handle it because to me, the forums here are all just pure fun and entertainment. It’s great to be able to read all the viewpoints and it’s quite challenging to me to sort out all the good from the bad.

Why did I just say this? Because I know that within these forums there are some very active pilots that frequently post whatever their opinions are with seemingly endless amounts of energy. Some of these pilots very often have personal opinions that are extremely unpopular with the vast majority. I would hope that everyone on both sides of every discussion would remember that it is all just fun and games and entertainment and that anyone who takes the time to post here is just contributing to all this wonderful entertainment.

Please remember that showing proper respect and dignity towards every other pilot _WITHOUT EXCEPTION_ encourages everyone to also respectfully contribute their ideas without fear of being the target of name calling or having their beliefs censored or removed from the forums by majority rule. I may be _crazy_ but there are only _ELEVEN WORDS_ that I never ever want to read here and here is the list:

This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.

I always go right for the hidden content to see for myself what was so incredibly evil that it can’t even be whispered in the darkness. 😃 I come here to these forums to be entertained and informed and I’m never disappointed. And _EVERYONE_ who takes the time to post and contribute is, in my opinion, a valued member of the forum community and I will try hard to respect that pilot. But of course I reserve the right to disagree with _anyone at any time._ But if I am **ever personally disrespectful to anyone,** please feel free to gang up on me and totally destroy me with your words. Because I will deserve it.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/406 "2018-09-20T18:27:11Z")

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> [@Farr\_Arrow](#):
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> Please, **If any pilot disagrees with me on anything,** _please attack my ideas and opinions and my thoughts and my dreams._

Emphasis mine.

There’s definitely things we disagree on and I really don’t care knowing, but as you politely ask people to attack your ideas, opinions and dreams, I will happily oblige:

Your ideas, opinions and dreams is ■■■■. They smells. One day you will wake up in tears because of the realization of how bad they all were.

There. Just as you wanted. I hope it made you happy! 😊

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**Author:** ![Farr\_Arrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/farr_arrow/32/243365_2.png) [@Farr\_Arrow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Farr_Arrow)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-member-distribution/107100/407 "2018-09-20T18:29:33Z")

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Thanks Solstice!

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