# CSM Vote Result confusion **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 14, 2020, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954 "2020-06-14T12:53:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Magnus\_Carta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magnus_carta/32/210653_2.png) [@Magnus\_Carta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magnus_Carta)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/92 "2020-06-17T14:43:39Z")
Some lack the knowledge, some lack the decency, others are just sock puppets. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/93 "2020-06-17T14:47:39Z")
/eyeroll ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/94 "2020-06-17T14:57:34Z")
Brisc, I am already impressed with your willingness to deal with the army of trolls on the forums. I wrote something to Gobbins on these forums and he basically just told me to get bent. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/95 "2020-06-17T15:02:55Z")
Part of my day job, part of my EVE job. /sigh ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/96 "2020-06-17T15:13:35Z")
> [@Sugar\_Smacks](#): > > Freedom is an illusion no matter where it is implied to be. Well, freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose. But ya know, nothing don’t mean nothing honey if it ain’t free. ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/98 "2020-06-17T16:38:41Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > You get a high sec guy and a PvE guy and that’s still not good enough. when candidates run with the mandate of abolishing this farce of a system it will be good enough for all. No disrespect intended to any individual intended. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/99 "2020-06-17T16:58:21Z")
Well yeah thats what I was seeing if he was happy with. That the more money you have the more votes you can cast. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/100 "2020-06-17T17:07:38Z")
> [@Rekindle](#): > > when candidates run with the mandate of abolishing this farce of a system it will be good enough for all. > > No disrespect intended to any individual intended. No candidate who runs on that platform is going to be qualified by CCP to run. This is a request every year, it gets knocked down every year. CCP wants the CSM, doesn’t matter if some players don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/101 "2020-06-17T17:18:57Z")
how…non democratic. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/102 "2020-06-17T17:26:34Z")
The only place where running to disband the group works is in high school. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/103 "2020-06-17T17:49:03Z")
To destroy system you have to be against it. To be in the system is to be against its destruction. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/104 "2020-06-17T18:10:32Z")
CCP isn’t going to care if one candidate runs on a “disband the CSM” campaign. “Let the kids have their fun.” ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/105 "2020-06-17T21:01:21Z")
There used to be a “none of the above” or “abtain” vote on the CSM ballots. They took it off for a reason. ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/106 "2020-06-17T22:01:32Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > The only place where running to disband the group works is in high school. I’m watching a documentary on HBO called Independence (not the one with aliens and spaceships, but that one is good too). Maybe you should check it out before you spew such conformist nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/107 "2020-06-17T22:13:27Z")
> [@Rekindle](#): > > I’m watching a documentary on HBO called Independence (not the one with aliens and spaceships, but that one is good too). Maybe you should check it out before you spew such conformist nonsense. I’ll take my 20 years in politics over your watching an HBO documentary, kthx. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/108 "2020-06-17T22:21:33Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > I’ll take my 20 years in politics Politics? In America? All the civilized countries see when they look at politicians in the U.S. is people willing to sell themselves to the highest bidder. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/109 "2020-06-17T22:25:02Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > Politics? In America? > > All the civilized countries see when they look at politicians in the U.S. is people willing to sell themselves to the highest bidder. Ahh, bigotry. How refreshing. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/110 "2020-06-17T22:25:28Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > willing to sell themselves to the highest bidder That’s politics the world over, the US is just crap at hiding it. The last honest man in politics was Guy Fawkes. > [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > Ahh, bigotry. How refreshing. I wouldn’t call it bigotry, it’s a common viewpoint outside of the US; there’s an old saying that the US has the best government that money can buy. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/111 "2020-06-17T22:26:54Z")
The US doesn’t hide it at all - in other countries it is called “corruption” and people go to prison for it. In the US it is called “lobbying” and it is considered completely fine, so long as you have all the necessary paperwork. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954/112 "2020-06-17T22:30:27Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > Ahh, bigotry. Me vocalizing disgust of fat people is bigotry. Pointing out corruption in the U.S. political system is simply stating the obvious. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-vote-result-confusion/248954.md?page=6)