# CSM Voting is just getting started! Representatives are Already Chosen **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 8, 2026, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923 "2026-09-08T04:30:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2026, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/41 "2026-09-09T15:46:27Z")
I’m Voting for John 👍 ---
**Author:** ![AristaBarret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aristabarret/32/510167_2.png) [@AristaBarret](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AristaBarret)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2026, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/42 "2026-09-09T15:55:21Z")
Your opinions are considered flaming or off topic and will be deleted by the very people that you have insulted. This is how CCP designs games before they tell you you’re playing it wrong. We just want to vote for John and Mike… How about we just get rid of this voting it doesn’t mean anything. It’s basically just a advertisement stunt for CCP to include it on a list. They’ve already proven they have no interest in listening to anyone other than those that represents the obvious thing everyone already knows. It’s the same thing as a coalition pretending they represent high SEC while selecting the leaders which get to speak. Which once again happened to be Carebears and Eve uni. In the CSM it’s basically CCP just has some questions because they already know what they want to do. And the only people they care to hear from is Guess who? So what you have is null Sec with its Representatives being asked how they want the changes to be implemented. In this way they get to hear about everything months in advance and they get to direct the changes in their own direction. And this is for the employee at CCP who thinks it’s not true. I follow the money brother. Watch what happens to the economy when you guys start telling them what you want to do. You’re playing with people that know how to play your own game better than you do. And not only that the video evidence has been on podcasts of them doing everything but bragging about it. ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2026, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/43 "2026-09-09T21:11:22Z")
I’m voting for every person that shares a good PVP viewpoint and that includes the null representatives along with low, high, w space. I’m 100% voting for Mike Azariah. You can YouTube him also and see presentations or just ask others in space. Everyone knows him and trusts him. It’s just an ongoing joke that there’s actually somebody named Jim if anyone is confused by that. Jim is an imaginary character that Kage tells us all about and thinks is controlling everything and we are all alts. ---
**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2026, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/44 "2026-09-09T21:16:36Z")
Jim isn’t imaginary, any more than any of the rest of us, he was the leader of CODE James 315 ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2026, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/45 "2026-09-09T21:17:12Z")
Awesome I am 100% voting for John. Jim what the f\*\*\* ever I don’t know anymore. Jim is still an imaginary character. There is no one doing all the things he says. Highsec is its own End-game. Praise James 315. The Savoir of Highsec. (You know if the real boss would make a list and send it out I’d follow that) ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2026, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/46 "2026-09-09T22:09:41Z")
I think all votes should be cast for players who have never served as CSM… DMC o7 ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/47 "2026-09-10T12:02:08Z")
Thought that was John ? ---
**Author:** ![Tharshe\_Bloes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tharshe_bloes/32/491277_2.png) [@Tharshe\_Bloes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tharshe_Bloes)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/48 "2026-09-10T12:53:58Z")
> [@Lucy\_Alfrir](#): > > Bah, that’s not the attitude, make a poorly informed decision, like the rest of us, essentially a dice roll for which volunteers get a crack at the job, it’s unlikely to be worse than any other method of selecting the CSM That sounds fun but I hate to choose based on limited information. I don’t like _best guesses_ either and I tend to stay away from any form of politics. I may vote next year when I’m not so green and naive. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/49 "2026-09-10T13:14:52Z")
> [@Tharshe\_Bloes](#): > > The HUD I don’t care, I’ll get used to whatever they decide on. I gather you never met the dreaded red dot? ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/50 "2026-09-10T16:31:03Z")
I was thinking about the Red Dot fiasco last night… I wish all these people pretending they know s\*\*\* and just slamming in AI slop would have a red dot on it. Every app that’s been vibe coded… Red Dot. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/51 "2026-09-10T16:34:17Z")
Speaking of which: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/2/c/22cd16953f9d6636d949c8f2b767f61566e21ab1.jpeg) :ccpguard: ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2026, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/52 "2026-09-11T08:36:18Z")
This year I’m not voting. It’s a complete waste of time and only serves to further the illusion that the next CSM hasn’t been pre-bought by null-sec. ---
**Author:** ![Tharshe\_Bloes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tharshe_bloes/32/491277_2.png) [@Tharshe\_Bloes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tharshe_Bloes)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2026, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/53 "2026-09-11T10:44:05Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > I gather you never met the dreaded red dot? If I started bemoaning something in a game I know I would have failed my life. If my ship doesn’t work then there is a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asgidur_hurtini/32/494282_2.png) [@Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asgidur_Hurtini)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2026, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/54 "2026-09-11T10:56:41Z")
![you-have-chosen-wisely_orig-203380279](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/2/3/b23394161c8ee3a77e6306d16973a4134a9d5ae9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2026, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/55 "2026-09-12T02:51:43Z")
You can do write-in votes for me! 👩🏻‍💼 ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2026, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/56 "2026-09-12T20:06:18Z")
@Aiko_Danuja I like your expertise with those memes. It’s not easy to do something that isn’t slop. Anyway point being… You know how the US government is structured with the House of Representatives a senate and then other things… Well right now in Eve we have a House of Representatives. What we need is a Senate. The blob controls the house. The Senate corrects this fairly and still does not dismiss the majorities will because all are represented in the union. What we also need is for CCP to understand the role of government should be a neutral third party which is anti-monopoly and pro competition. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/57 "2026-09-13T01:37:30Z")
What we need is to call the CSM for what it is: a paid FC mouthpiece rigged by null-sec. ---
**Author:** ![AristaBarret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aristabarret/32/510167_2.png) [@AristaBarret](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AristaBarret)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/58 "2026-09-13T02:02:39Z")
Dont forget that CCP does their best to not inform the members of literal changes as they happen when getting feedback. But do you want to bet the results if I was in that meeting? Do you think I would be able to capitalize heavily on anything they even hint at? I dont underestimate the guys who are in those positions. I respect them and expect results beyond my own. I have seen on video of major manufacturers who represent huge alliances openly admitting they had knowledge of changes months in advance. Id rather NOT have a CSM than allow this sort of scenario. This is a literal scenario that happens between CSM and CCP. This is from the mouth of past CSMs. (the meeting scenarios) IF you are anyone other than null, what are we getting out of this? A delusion of being heard or simply just a chance to capitalize? IF CCP is so good at not sharing insider information, well then turn on the stream. How about some transparency since the credibility is gone. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/59 "2026-09-13T17:03:03Z")
Tell me you don’t know how CSM elections work without telling me you don’t know how CSM elections work. ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2026, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-voting-is-just-getting-started-representatives-are-already-chosen/517923/60 "2026-09-13T17:06:41Z")
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