# Current King of ratting? **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [December 3, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235 "2017-12-03T20:44:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/22 "2018-02-18T13:45:49Z")
Power goes down. you get pointed. you lose ship. gg ccp. Dude if you are bad, it’s not CCP fault. ---
**Author:** ![Songbird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/songbird/32/264814_2.png) [@Songbird](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Songbird)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/24 "2018-02-24T10:43:43Z")
Paladin for me as well - can’t beat cheap ammo , 100 km optimal with pulses…I love it . Proj ships only when doing explosive ---
**Author:** ![Alua\_Oresson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alua_oresson/32/504959_2.png) [@Alua\_Oresson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alua_Oresson)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/25 "2018-02-24T11:21:47Z")
> [@Songbird](#): > > Paladin for me as well - can’t beat cheap ammo , 100 km optimal with pulses…I love it . Proj ships only when doing explosive The Paladin is a pro at 10/10 DED sites (Blood raider naval shipyard). They are just so tanky and damaging. ---
**Author:** ![Alua\_Oresson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alua_oresson/32/504959_2.png) [@Alua\_Oresson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alua_Oresson)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/26 "2018-02-24T11:23:22Z")
> [@Donald\_01Miner](#): > > hven’t played for a few years, used to be Pimped out golems, though ridiuclously spendy were the undisputed kings of ratting and anomolies… > > is that still true? What’s changed last few years? There a new king? The new king is the Nyx or the Hel. Both do insane damage and break 100mil/tick from what I’ve heard. ---
**Author:** ![Alua\_Oresson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alua_oresson/32/504959_2.png) [@Alua\_Oresson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alua_Oresson)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/27 "2018-02-24T11:25:11Z")
> [@Alpha\_Slow](#): > > Don’t go marauder if there is a chance you will lose power or your internet connection because siege mode will prevent your ship from warping out should it happen and CCP is too dumb and crap to have a better mechanics for this. > > Power goes out. There goes 1 Bil isk worth of ship. GG CCP. Did you not know that the bastion module being active would prevent a warp? What would you like as an alternative? Would you like all modules to inactivate when you get logged off? ---
**Author:** ![Abyss\_Azizora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abyss_azizora/32/15938_2.png) [@Abyss\_Azizora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abyss_Azizora)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/28 "2018-02-24T12:24:42Z")
> [@Donald\_01Miner](#): > > But as far as a pimped ship expensive solo player, marauder (golem) still is it eh nothing better even at high cost? > > Paladins just…if I recall they were just awful…the lasers just couldn’t handle it, and kronos either cuz the rails couldn’t compete with the missile damage. It’s changed, the Paladin is largely the best marauder for missions as long as your doing them versus casual rats/sansa/blood raider/serpentis. However the Golem is still king versus angel/gurista. Paladin can simply achieve INSANE dps, and apply it with great tracking at roughly 100km range with mega pulse. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/29 "2018-02-27T12:01:43Z")
> [@Abyss\_Azizora](#): > > a. Paladin can simply achieve INSANE dps I find 900 turret dps not that super insane. A Phoenix in bastion can do 3600dps. ---
**Author:** ![Ildrara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ildrara/32/56659_2.png) [@Ildrara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ildrara)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/30 "2018-02-27T21:08:15Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > I find 900 turret dps not that super insane. A Phoenix in bastion can to 3600dps. In Bastion huh. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/31 "2018-02-28T01:58:02Z")
Phoenix has no bastion, dummy. Has siege mod. ---
**Author:** ![Luther\_Fairfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luther_fairfax/32/512563_2.png) [@Luther\_Fairfax](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luther_Fairfax)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/32 "2018-02-28T07:28:16Z")
And that’s 900 dps at like 100kms or more, for the record… Pair that with the good tracking of lasers, instant damage, tractors, room for your next 6 years worth of ammo in cargo, and closer to 1300 dps up close with pulses, half the time it doesn’t even matter that you’re restricted to em/therm cause things just melt. Edit: 2022 Pally does 2400 dps with Megapulse ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/33 "2018-02-28T08:15:53Z")
Supercarriers for anomaly running:vendetta,nyx,hel haven’t tried the sansha turd boat yet ---
**Author:** ![LulKlz\_Duster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lulklz_duster/32/129692_2.png) [@LulKlz\_Duster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LulKlz_Duster)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/34 "2018-02-28T19:12:48Z")
Carriers seemto be the way to go in Null. As for me I stick to cheap so I fly a Raven for PVE and lvl 4s. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/35 "2018-02-28T20:02:41Z")
> [@Luther\_Fairfax](#): > > And that’s 900 dps at like 100kms or more, for the record… Nope, it is 18km-ish for the conflagration of things. I don’t know how you get 900dps at 100km unless you fit 9 tracking enhancers and 4x scripted targeting computers.. ---
**Author:** ![zander\_exvirus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zander_exvirus/32/189470_2.png) [@zander\_exvirus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zander_exvirus)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/36 "2018-02-28T20:10:49Z")
Rattlesnakes are the best when it comes to the amount of things they can do. I have a 10/10 rattlesnake that I use for running 10/10’s, officer hunting, and clearing rats for my corp mates. Works very well, but a bit pricey. ---
**Author:** ![Inir\_Ishtori](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inir_ishtori/32/377401_2.png) [@Inir\_Ishtori](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inir_Ishtori)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/37 "2018-02-28T20:30:19Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > Nope, it is 18km-ish for the conflagration of things. I don’t know how you get 900dps at 100km unless you fit 9 tracking enhancers and 4x scripted targeting computers… ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/7/f747b85f9f0d3fdc62f7940563d09614c311a71b.jpg) It’s fairly trivial. Does 1k dps with conflagration at 47km, too. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/38 "2018-02-28T22:11:27Z")
You need more heatsinks. More is gooderererererer. ---
**Author:** ![Luther\_Fairfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luther_fairfax/32/512563_2.png) [@Luther\_Fairfax](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luther_Fairfax)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/39 "2018-03-01T04:20:49Z")
Try harder ---
**Author:** ![Ildrara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ildrara/32/56659_2.png) [@Ildrara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ildrara)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/40 "2018-03-01T10:25:38Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > Phoenix has no bastion, dummy. Has siege mod. You’re the one that said it does ya dip. ---
**Author:** ![Luther\_Fairfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luther_fairfax/32/512563_2.png) [@Luther\_Fairfax](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luther_Fairfax)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/41 "2018-03-04T03:37:10Z")
In summary for OP, I think the general consensus seems to be… Rattle -\> Pally/Golem -\> Carrier ---
**Author:** ![Fjellkjell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fjellkjell/32/71453_2.png) [@Fjellkjell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fjellkjell)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235/42 "2018-05-07T21:18:39Z")
I use an oracle for ratting. Fit 8 tachy beams, warp in at 100 and melt stuff. Can alpha the frigs, 2-3 salvos for the cruisers, about 8-12 for the bs. If something gets too close, mwd is your friend. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-king-of-ratting/43235.md?page=3)