# Current state of highsec crime **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 24, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722 "2017-06-24T20:19:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/41 "2017-07-20T18:00:58Z")
Just ignore him, he talks in circles, says nothing, and thinks he’s way smarter than he actually is. ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/42 "2017-07-20T19:53:49Z")
and your massive ego definitely is capable of such a judgement. of course. 🙂 and telling people to ignore someone is **definitely** a sign of intelligence. of course. 🙂 so smart much wow thanks for the insights into your mind. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mitch\_Braddox](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mitch_braddox/32/13079_2.png) [@Mitch\_Braddox](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mitch_Braddox)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/43 "2017-07-20T22:03:00Z")
Got a new Vigil, tried again, scored a jackpot this time around. Easily 5 times worth the ship I lost, if not 10 times. You’re right, it’s a groovy hobby for a gambling man, you never know what’s on the other side. Just be prepared for bouts of bad luck. I’m starting to love the scanning and probing, it gets real easy with practice. What do the miners always say? I find it relaxing. ---
**Author:** ![Moon\_Moon\_Burdy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moon_moon_burdy/32/51378_2.png) [@Moon\_Moon\_Burdy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moon_Moon_Burdy)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/44 "2017-07-22T02:02:51Z")
That’s the spirit! I think you’re gonna like it here. ---
**Author:** ![Tengu\_Grib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tengu_grib/32/130944_2.png) [@Tengu\_Grib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tengu_Grib)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/45 "2017-07-22T04:58:11Z")
\o/ grats on the success! Eve is all about ups and downs. With practice you learn how to turn some of the downs into ups (narrow escapes, defeating overwhelming opponents etc) ---
**Author:** ![Mitch\_Braddox](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mitch_braddox/32/13079_2.png) [@Mitch\_Braddox](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mitch_Braddox)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/46 "2017-07-23T00:36:57Z")
My total profit from that one gig amounted to over 6 million ISK when I sold it. Maybe closer to seven. All from the yellow wrecks in one room in a lvl 4 mission pocket. The best job for rookies to make ISK ever. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/47 "2017-07-23T02:16:11Z")
Getting the elusive mission-bear to agress you is the first part. Next you will need to learn how to fight him. I recommend looking up videos on how tracking and spiral-approach work to sig-tank larger guns to get in for tackle. Keep baiting and eventually you’ll bag yourself a good one. ---
**Author:** ![Tengu\_Grib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tengu_grib/32/130944_2.png) [@Tengu\_Grib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tengu_Grib)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/48 "2017-07-24T13:50:45Z")
First time you kill a multi billion isk battleship in your frigate, you’ll be hooked. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/49 "2017-07-24T16:11:55Z")
If you’re sig tanking, and you’re fast enough, you can usually just fly in a straight line on a big target. You’ve got to take into account how long it takes them to lock you up, too. In that time, you can cross up to 30-50km in a fast enough ship. And once you’re under guns, it’s all downhill from there. ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/50 "2017-07-24T16:28:52Z")
Depends on the situation, but I can personally tell you that even with boosts and halos you will get ■■■■ on quickly… especially by anything that has drones (the most popular damage platform for ratting and missions by far). It’s just good practice to learn how to spiral-approach, with the only exception being something with a missile-based platform. Fly at those in a straight line. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/51 "2017-07-24T16:31:26Z")
I’m almost always in fast assault frigates when going for tackle on bigger ships like BCs or BSs. Never had a problem with drones. It’s neuts that worry me the most. If they’re doing PVE, there’s a good chance they have a lot of rats locked up and will have to unlock something first to make room to lock me long before they can get a shot off with guns or missiles. By then, my 2.8km/s 416dps Enyo is all over them. ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/52 "2017-07-24T16:36:39Z")
I mean find the best method for the individual, but I wouldn’t tell people that l learning how to spiral is useless with mission baiting. It’s certainly saved me a number of times, especially when the target MJD’s multiple times. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/53 "2017-07-24T16:38:23Z")
> [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](#): > > especially when the target MJD’s multiple times. I lost a Nestor in lowsec a few days ago because of MJD. Was in my Phobos using warp disruption script instead of scram. Still getting ■■■■ from the guys I fly with for it 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Mobadder\_Thworst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mobadder_thworst/32/17572_2.png) [@Mobadder\_Thworst](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mobadder_Thworst)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/54 "2017-08-18T04:33:57Z")
I had to quit playing when they upgraded the rookie ships. How the hell am I supposed to take an Ibis with drones? ---
**Author:** ![Tarsas\_Phage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tarsas_phage/32/482683_2.png) [@Tarsas\_Phage](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tarsas_Phage)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/55 "2017-08-18T05:27:36Z")
> [@hellokittyonline](#): > > I was part of the community that wrote those ancient guides and I still ninja salvage for almost all of the isk that I make (not on the char that im posting with). Man, I got my start in Eve falling in with a group that did targeted wardecs and then when on to roll with the old T.E.A.R.S. (Tear Extraction and Reclamation Services) guys. I really miss large swaths of Crimewatch 1.0 features. Bored on a Tuesday night? Jettison or take a can in top belt of Hek and wait only a little bit, or go look for jetcan miners in the quiet corners of highsec that no one would normally have a reason to visit. It’s good to hear you’re still pulling missions from your Salvage Agent and doing to your best to finish them. How different are the tactics these days? My impression is that there’s no room for subtlety anymore, and it’s basically “Be obvious and shoot some carebear’s MTU to go suspect.” Bear in mind, the last time I did this, it was with the 500MN MWD (100MN back then) bump Orca with a T3 or Hurricane inside, and a salvaging Vigil or Worm (which wasn’t much of a threat back then before the rebalancing.) ---
**Author:** ![Jamwara\_DelCalicoe\_Ashley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jamwara_delcalicoe_ashley/32/251164_2.png) [@Jamwara\_DelCalicoe\_Ashley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jamwara_DelCalicoe_Ashley)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/56 "2017-08-18T15:41:48Z")
Don’t forget the Ninja Noctis… combat probes, tractor beams, salvagers and salvage drones etc… Act stupid when they ask “How’d you end up in my mission pocket?” “YOU’RE mission pocket?! I was here first.” It doesn’t matter that you’re lying your face off, the goal is to provoke an irrational response in hopes they shoot at you. Warp out and come back in something appropriate for a dunkfest. Plus you get that Elite PvP status. Prove Mom right. ---
**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/57 "2017-08-18T19:14:00Z")
Uhh… Uhm… A… A giant stone John Wilkes Booth? (Not sure why you’re asking me?) ---
**Author:** ![Kathern\_Aurilen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kathern_aurilen/32/149798_2.png) [@Kathern\_Aurilen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kathern_Aurilen)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/58 "2017-08-21T13:56:25Z")
> [@Mitch\_Braddox](#): > > Combat probing is pretty hard for Alpha because I can’t train the proper skills, but I’m going to get Omega once I get the hang of it. The upside is that I get really good practice with combat probing if I train with severely deficient skills. Im an alpha and i scan pretty darn good using a t1 scan frig, I can get a level 4 sig to 98% with just my venture and t1 grav mods. I scan ships pretty easily with t1 extended probe launcher and sister combat probe and t1 rigs on my scan frig and a range mod. Just train your skills and prep your ship and you will be fine. ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/59 "2017-08-21T18:30:34Z")
> [@Kathern\_Aurilen](#): > > extended probe launcher What’s one of those? :slowparrot: ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722/61 "2017-08-21T19:25:50Z")
It takes up two slots and launches 16 probes, allowing you to scan two signatures at once. They’re pretty rare. I got mine from the same guy who sold me a 500nm micro-warp drive. It’s tiny! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-highsec-crime/6722.md?page=4)