# Current state of player grieving. Cloaky campers? What? Why? Is this a 15 year conclusion on how to encourage new players to the game? Is grieving, fun?

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**Created:** [April 15, 2018, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-player-grieving-cloaky-campers-what-why-is-this-a-15-year-conclusion-on-how-to-encourage-new-players-to-the-game-is-grieving-fun/69844 "2018-04-15T12:12:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-player-grieving-cloaky-campers-what-why-is-this-a-15-year-conclusion-on-how-to-encourage-new-players-to-the-game-is-grieving-fun/69844/2 "2018-04-15T15:14:00Z")

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