# Current State of Suicide Ganking **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Created:** [December 6, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185 "2023-12-06T12:05:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Eney\_Issier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eney_issier/32/472040_2.png) [@Eney\_Issier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eney_Issier)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185/61 "2023-12-18T12:25:38Z")
Well eve depends alont on the [broken window fallacy](https://mises.org/library/broken-window) fueling the economic balance. Instead of moving ganking out of the game why not a suggestion to - for a change towards amusement - award those who get ganked in mining, industry and freight ships with isk for supporting the economic balance. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185/62 "2023-12-19T00:28:01Z")
> [@Eney\_Issier](#): > > Instead of moving ganking out of the game why not a suggestion to - for a change towards amusement - award those who get ganked in mining, industry and freight ships with isk for supporting the economic balance. why dont move it out ? 1. CCP want it into their game 2. its not a problem ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185/63 "2023-12-19T01:33:36Z")
Besides, they already get paid - it is called “insurance”. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185/64 "2023-12-19T01:43:45Z")
exactly ! ---
**Author:** ![Eney\_Issier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eney_issier/32/472040_2.png) [@Eney\_Issier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eney_Issier)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185/65 "2023-12-19T09:06:34Z")
Oh and here somebody missed the hint of “for a change towards amsement”. Perhaps this irony was designed [too british](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLJ8ILIE780). > [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > why dont move it out ? > > 1. CCP want it into their game > 2. its not a problem If ccp wanted a solution they could adopt a fairly simple one for 1.0 and 0.9, being anyone who is in such with said security rating and has one [active weapon turrets is dealt with like criminals ar dealt with](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBdAKuqIYEI). ---
**Author:** ![PerfectWing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/perfectwing/32/399981_2.png) [@PerfectWing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PerfectWing)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185/66 "2023-12-21T23:31:07Z")
The fleet mechanics make ganks passable, Ie i can attack any suscept. freely. but if the suspect is in a fleet with rep boosts concord never responds. So dont count on a high sec response. Tbh if its not a kill mail who cares. Know that said eve is chess./ Sometimes that miner might not be a miner. Sometimes that guy that tackled someone is there freind. That aclty was nice guys. But allways go for the kill, lol (less crap Talking 2 moron. ) normaly if player x kills player y then play y can a) bounty b) join the corp. ect ect also adding the entire corporation as a contact helps. orca have a 10 sec algin time if you fit them right. and you can refit it./ Your drones should shred it in high sec any way. buy the bpo and make your own then your losses dont relay matter. insurances Should cover the bcp and extra mats, My gripe War decs. lame wtf did you do here. use to be to just dec know i need a structure. lame. You do realizes that these limit counter offence Strikes. Thus encourages Ganking. If the high sec idy guy cant offer me 400 mill to suicided blow your stuff up. might as well move back to null. Rember they use to have super caps in high sec. bridge to systems and fire dooms days. You guys have time. heh its like 30 days to build one , 10 systems 200 targets not cost effective But will have some fun. ---
**Author:** ![Rohan\_Enorch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rohan_enorch/32/310580_2.png) [@Rohan\_Enorch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rohan_Enorch)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185/67 "2024-01-03T09:02:34Z")
exactly my kind of thinking 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rumi\_Shanti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rumi_shanti/32/409460_2.png) [@Rumi\_Shanti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rumi_Shanti)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185/68 "2024-01-31T05:32:41Z")
I gave no thought about suicide banks in hisec…unit I began to PvP flying bling, playing for Wingspan. the I became a hot target coming into hubs. Nita the worst, Minmatar second. Never got jumped in Ammar or Gallante space yet so far. I avoid Minmatar regions generally speaking if flying something killworthy. Jita is number one though. Minmatar hubs and Cinq Liason 0.5 areas are tied for me for most risky. I almost lost a bling widow I was transporting in Cinq but managed to outwit the setup while testing some fittings. Lost Barghest, Tengu worth 4B … The average since price of ship I lose is maybe 3B. With ■■■■ loot drops being in the order of a couple hundred million, I don’t see the point. A fleet of tornados nailed me once at Jita, they lost insta’d me but lost their ships right away. The only reason I could think was vandetta. Right this moment that same corp is waiting me out rn. Talking to me in a few of 20 muktibox all with less than a year old characters. If I undock tonight and they bumb me, I’ll be out again. I take enough risk in W-space. I come to hisec and I want to let my guard down. I can’t. This is one of the most discouraging aspects of the game, IMO. Gank me in lo/null/WH… I shake your hand and say good flying cap. In hisec I spit on your hand. ---
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185/69 "2024-01-31T06:31:43Z")
> [@Lando\_Ovaerte](#): > > Try and kill a freighter with a fleet of catalysts without the help of something like this running to help you manage all of the clients. I bet it doesn’t happen as fast if at all. I’ll take, and win, that bet. Tile out your client windows so you can see the edge of the overview and simply ctrl+click your way through them with guns pre-activated. Much faster than eve-o preview. Eg: [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/a/5/fa5ad3056a2df00e9542d9ab44fe60e0f665e5c4.jpeg "Kusion Gank Fleet") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iTZKad3Uww) What did i win? ---
**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185/70 "2024-02-18T10:45:02Z")
The advent of badass gaming computers allowed for more and more clients running at the same time for forming dirt-cheap high combined DPS gank fleets. Maybe it’s simply time to adjust to the future and make CONCORD response times faster or making more CONCORD ships dropping on grid at a time with higher tracking locking speeds and DPS 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185/71 "2024-02-23T03:48:23Z")
> [@Lando\_Ovaerte](#): > > The current suicide ganking mechanic is unbalanced and unfair Do you people ever stop whining? ---
**Author:** ![Apo\_Bong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/apo_bong/32/512751_2.png) [@Apo\_Bong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Apo_Bong)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185/72 "2024-02-23T08:45:39Z")
Just one more nerf and everything will be fine! ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185/73 "2024-02-23T09:57:45Z")
If there is no ganking, ppl will complain about the ‘issue’ that you can lose your ship to NPCs - in HIGH SEC! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185/74 "2024-02-23T10:20:22Z")
Guristas pirates should not be allowed in a high security zone! ---
**Author:** ![Tec8n0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tec8n0/32/469865_2.png) [@Tec8n0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tec8n0)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185/75 "2024-02-23T10:58:20Z")
Can I have your stuff? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-suicide-ganking/431185/76 "2024-05-23T10:59:09Z")
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