# Daily reminder - if you have any doubts about your internet connection stability, don't take the risk of Abyssal Deadspace **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 8, 2019, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336 "2019-07-08T12:20:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/41 "2019-07-08T21:36:48Z")
Should I do Abyss? _Poll ([view on site](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/41))_ ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/42 "2019-07-08T23:47:21Z")
To be honest the best internet connection in the world could not save me ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Jenn\_aSide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenn_aside/32/384682_2.png) [@Jenn\_aSide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenn_aSide)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/43 "2019-07-09T01:05:11Z")
The disconnect thing is the worst flaw in the whole idea. In regular pve, if I disconnect the worst that will happen to me is I lose some drones (I overtank and a use cap stable fits after some devastating DCs in the past). in Abyssal space its always all or nothing. I still do them and haven’t DC’d in a while but its always frustrating. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/44 "2019-07-09T01:20:05Z")
> [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#): > > And how is CCP supposed to discern between _their_ internet problem (main trunk to a server misbehaving, and _your_ internet problem (living in an area with a crap service) ? Logs. Unless CCP servers are separated into thousands of little servers that each use a different ISP, if something happens to EVE servers because CCPs ISP fails and goes down, they will be able to realize something is amiss when half the population disconnects. > [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#): > > Do you think you should be reimbursed by CCP because your ISP’s techie pulled the wrong plug ? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/45 "2019-07-09T01:22:33Z")
> [@Roman\_Nicolaus\_Sternberg](#): > > I cannot guarantee that my Internet provider will not have another hiccup I dont understand. Can you guarantee that lightning wont strike your house and make you lose power? Can you guarantee that a hacker wont hack into your power grid and shut the power off? Can you guarantee that a meteor wont hit the power station? Theres always a chance. No one is saying that with 100% certainty, they will be able to play EVE. So even if your internet cuts out every 1/10000 times, thats still pretty damn good, and shouldnt prevent you from playing. If you live in constant fear of what _might_ happen, you wouldnt be able to do anything. ---
**Author:** ![Ghost\_O\_Mo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ghost_o_mo/32/376789_2.png) [@Ghost\_O\_Mo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ghost_O_Mo)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/46 "2019-07-09T01:34:01Z")
You guys missed the ball. This was all because the drifters are attacking and concord is out of that magic router fluid. Damn drifters. My phone battery even went dead. ---
**Author:** ![BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boingboingboingboing_boingobbleoi/32/203433_2.png) [@BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING_BOINGOBBLEOI)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/47 "2019-07-09T02:38:07Z")
> [@Roman\_Nicolaus\_Sternberg](#): > > Now the situation is clear to me - that’s why I warn those, who still don’t know about it. If you’ll loose connection for few minutes - you’ll loose your ship, without any reimbursement. This is really common sense though. I can’t imagine that anyone on the forums, or anyone in the world who plays games online, wouldn’t know this already. Yet, you look to us and the poor GM for…sympathy? You know, maybe you could sue CCP. Because you know. Serious business. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/48 "2019-07-09T02:40:35Z")
The only thing that got in my craw with connection strength was using Geckos. Of course that Linksys router hack to be a repeater to a wireless roughly 100 yards away was a bit risky now that I think about it. ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/49 "2019-07-09T08:16:59Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > > [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#): > > > > And how is CCP supposed to discern between _their_ internet problem (main trunk to a server misbehaving, and _your_ internet problem (living in an area with a crap service) ? > > Logs. > Unless CCP servers are separated into thousands of little servers that each use a different ISP, if something happens to EVE servers because CCPs ISP fails and goes down, they will be able to realize something is amiss _when_ half the population disconnects. Replace that ‘_when_’ with an ‘_if_’ and I’ll allow you that - I was talking more about the frequent case where one individual is accusing CCP of disconnecting them, but no-one else is seeing a problem. > [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > > [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#): > > > > Do you think you should be reimbursed by CCP because your ISP’s techie pulled the wrong plug ? > > Yes. Really ? Why ? ---
**Author:** ![Dilligafmofo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dilligafmofo/32/306665_2.png) [@Dilligafmofo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dilligafmofo)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/50 "2019-07-09T11:25:27Z")
300m loss, get over it OP ---
**Author:** ![Roman\_Nicolaus\_Sternberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roman_nicolaus_sternberg/32/146913_2.png) [@Roman\_Nicolaus\_Sternberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roman_Nicolaus_Sternberg)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/51 "2019-07-09T11:49:36Z")
Yeah, it was just a 300m Gila. The greater the warning for those who use blingy ships and don’t have 100% stable connection. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/52 "2019-07-09T15:23:20Z")
lol, 300m is not blingy 🤣 All this over a lousy 300m ship? Really? ---
**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shai_hulud/32/279251_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/53 "2019-07-09T15:38:33Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > lol, 300m is not blingy 🤣 He didn’t say it is. Read. To be clear, a long time ago (12+ years) I had a ship reimbursed on loss due to disconnect. CCP is free to adjust reimbursement policies and standards, so it’s not useless to get occasional updates from players on what they don’t reimburse. Let’s say a pilot who doesn’t know much about the game autopilots and gets ganked by CODE. Then this pilot makes a post saying they are not going to autopilot anymore because they have learned their lesson. Basically the same as this post, with a different lesson. A post saying “lesson learned” is not inherently a whine. In fact its exactly what I have seen many of you, that are attacking Roman here, advocate in other threads. The arrogance in most of the replies to this thread is a bit sickening. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/54 "2019-07-09T15:49:57Z")
Some replies might be a little tongue-of-cheek Shai… Girls just wanna have fun. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/55 "2019-07-09T16:01:20Z")
> [@Shai\_Hulud](#): > > CCP is free to adjust reimbursement policies and standards Not as free as you might think. The more they push the “Buy PLEX to sell for skills and ships” (AKA buying ships for cash), the closer they come to a legal responsibility to replace losses. No one, especially us builders, want to see this. That’s why the disdain for CCP/PA’s decision to turn EVE into a cash shop. This slippery slope is going to lead to the loss of one corner of the golden triangle EVE is built around. All for what? Short term profit over long term stability. Anyway, back to the topic. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/56 "2019-07-09T16:07:33Z")
> [@Shai\_Hulud](#): > > A post saying “lesson learned” is not inherently a whine Except OP doesn’t say that. ---
**Author:** ![Roman\_Nicolaus\_Sternberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roman_nicolaus_sternberg/32/146913_2.png) [@Roman\_Nicolaus\_Sternberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roman_Nicolaus_Sternberg)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/57 "2019-07-09T16:15:02Z")
Lesson learned - there, you have it. I won’t go again into abyssal deadspace, it’s not worth it due to increased possibility of loosing your ship because of connection problems. I’ll loose my ships in other ways, even being ganked by PIRAT is more fun than this. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/58 "2019-07-09T16:27:54Z")
Perfect, most feel Abyss should be removed from the game. ---
**Author:** ![Dilligafmofo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dilligafmofo/32/306665_2.png) [@Dilligafmofo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dilligafmofo)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/59 "2019-07-09T16:37:22Z")
sent you a little something in game, dont be put off trying ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336/60 "2019-07-09T16:46:32Z")
@Dilligafmofo - I too lost a ship in tragic circumstances. It must have been ccp’s fault, those punks. 5 billion gone. I look forward to your generous gift. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/daily-reminder-if-you-have-any-doubts-about-your-internet-connection-stability-dont-take-the-risk-of-abyssal-deadspace/173336.md?page=4)