# Dangerous Systems in EvE Online for casuals Players **URL:** \ **Category:** New Citizens Q&A\ **Created:** [October 28, 2024, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077 "2024-10-28T09:57:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nelfurion\_Kor-Azor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nelfurion_kor-azor/32/423530_2.png) [@Nelfurion\_Kor-Azor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nelfurion_Kor-Azor)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/1 "2024-10-28T09:57:23Z")
Hi Folks, I`m interetsed in a List of dangerous Systems for new/casual Players (and some Info`s about it …) Like: Abahzon (Direct connection Jita/Amarr, always Gate camped) Uedema … Maybe you can make some suggestions … Thx a lot … ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/2 "2024-10-28T09:59:27Z")
Jita 😉 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/3 "2024-10-29T05:47:48Z")
Amarr undock can become an issue if you don’t have a long undock and undocking with value. Close to Amarr there is a Nulsec link straight from highsec that seems to have incursions and you can find that someone anchored a large warp disruption unit on the gate that would also have incursion npc’s ---
**Author:** ![Analoreke\_Brunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/analoreke_brunette/32/441333_2.png) [@Analoreke\_Brunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Analoreke_Brunette)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/4 "2024-10-29T06:02:21Z")
_Every_ system is a potentially dangerous system. Do not get complacent and judge by sec status. Death always lurks around the corner of the next gate so always be alert and take the proper precautions. ---
**Author:** ![wildbill212](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wildbill212/32/434381_2.png) [@wildbill212](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/wildbill212)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/5 "2024-10-29T17:25:19Z")
Well yes, but some are more dangerous, some less. There are a few websites that will help you determine where the currently most dangerous places are to travel. Like this one: [https://eve-gatecheck.space/eve/](https://eve-gatecheck.space/eve/) So one precaution you could do, is check this site before you travel. Also, high sec is generally safer than low sec because CONCORD operates in high sec and punishes attacks. Although it can’t stop them. Golden rule of EVE: “Never fly something (or with something in the cargo) you can’t afford to lose. Yes, not even in highsec. You should not fly a ship you cannot afford to replace and refit. (And remember to insure your ships!)” This insurance part seems like a waste to me. If you can afford to lose it then what do you need insurance for? Also insurance doesn’t cover what is fit into it (which is usually more than the ship itself). And insurance doesn’t cover your cargo either. ---
**Author:** ![Analoreke\_Brunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/analoreke_brunette/32/441333_2.png) [@Analoreke\_Brunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Analoreke_Brunette)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/6 "2024-10-29T17:52:26Z")
> [@wildbill212](#): > > Well yes, but some are more dangerous, some less I prefer to think of _every_ system as dangerous, that way I’m always ready to react and I don’t get caught with my pants down. > [@wildbill212](#): > > There are a few websites that will help you determine where the currently most dangerous places are to travel I know them. The in-game maps can tell you a lot as well. > [@wildbill212](#): > > Also, high sec is generally safer than low sec because CONCORD operates in high sec and punishes attacks. Although it can’t stop them I can relax a bit while in Hisec but I’m choosing to live in Lowsec. I’m always ready to fight or flight. > [@wildbill212](#): > > Golden rule of EVE I know, it’s in New Players sections, 8 Golden Rules thread. > [@wildbill212](#): > > This insurance part seems like a waste to me. If you can afford to lose it then what do you need insurance for? Also insurance doesn’t cover what is fit into it (which is usually more than the ship itself). And insurance doesn’t cover your cargo either This is the first time I think about ship insurance since in a month. It’s a waste of time. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/7 "2024-10-29T20:34:45Z")
> [@Nelfurion\_Kor-Azor](#): > > I`m interetsed in a List of dangerous Systems for new/casual Players (and some Info`s about it …) Like: all systems are dangerous ! there are no safe place in eve expect a NPC station ! ---
**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/8 "2024-10-29T20:47:59Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > there are no safe place in eve expect a NPC station ! EvE cutthroat game. Die for sure, only matter of time! ---
**Author:** ![Sere\_O\_Asis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sere_o_asis/32/374997_2.png) [@Sere\_O\_Asis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sere_O_Asis)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/9 "2024-10-29T22:00:16Z")
> [@Nelfurion\_Kor-Azor](#): > > `(and some Info`s about it …) Stargates provide a certain amount of potentially delayed info (as does the ingame star maps): > **[Stargate Holograms](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001641900-Stargate-Holograms)** > > A number of holograms next to a star gate offer information about the system that the gate connects to, such as the security rating of the target system or if there has been a high number of ship o... ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/10 "2024-10-29T22:18:26Z")
Gate often camped at PF-346 on both Orvolle and FD-MLJ and then again between FD-MLJ and X-M2LR on both sides of the gate. You’re _relatively_ safe in the surrounding systems. Edit: Sometimes the K5-JRD gate gets camped at either the X-M2LR or 8V-SJJ ends but less often than the 2 or 3 canps a day for the former. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/11 "2024-10-30T01:32:56Z")
The problem is EVE was never designed for casual players. Try as they might, the basic game mechanics means it’s hard to turn in it to Candy Crush. ---
**Author:** ![Izumi\_Sanae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/izumi_sanae/32/438748_2.png) [@Izumi\_Sanae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Izumi_Sanae)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/12 "2024-10-30T02:03:34Z")
For security standing below-3. high sec systems are extremly dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![Ogun\_Ferraille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ogun_ferraille/32/467938_2.png) [@Ogun\_Ferraille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ogun_Ferraille)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/13 "2024-10-30T11:12:45Z")
Doing business in Misaba can be very dangerous (rumors) ---
**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/14 "2024-10-30T11:30:23Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > The problem is EVE was never designed for casual players EVE for all kind of players. Yes, cutthroat, but still every players can play, casuel or hardcore, normal or psychopath evryone can leave station and do pewpews on ship or rock and find satisfied playtime. ---
**Author:** ![Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_rose_ivory/32/433985_2.png) [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Rose_Ivory)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/15 "2024-10-30T12:11:38Z")
This is a list of known locations for piracy I copied from here → [Eve University Wiki](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Known_pirate_systems) Akora - 0.32, The Forge **Ahbazon - 0.4, Genesis** Amamake - 0.43, Heimatar Atlar - 0.37, Molden Heath Aunenen - 0.44, Lonetrek Bosena - 0.4, Molden Heath Decon - 0.38, Sinq Laison **Egghelende - 0.45, Sinq Laison** Frulegur - 0.43, Metropolis Goinard - 0.34, Sinq Laison Hadozeko - 0.4, Metropolis Hagilur - 0.36, Metropolis Hevrice - 0.41, Verge Vendor Ihakana - 0.38, The Forge Illamur - 0.28, Molden Heath Ingunn - 0.28, Heimatar Jan - 0.42, Lonetrek Messoya - 0.32, The Forge Mifrata - 0.3, Derelik Naguton - 0.31, Domain Oddelulf - 0.37, Molden Heath Old Man Star - 0.33, Essence Otsela - 0.38, The Forge Oulley - 0.3, Placid Rahadalon - 0.39, Devoid **Rancer - 0.36, Sinq Laison** Resbroko- 0.44, Metropolis Seyllin - 0.4, Essence Tama - 0.28, The Citadel Tasti - 0.28, The Forge **Vecamia - 0.44, Genesis** Choke points between regions in space are in bold. For example; if you plot the shortest path from Amarr to Jita, you will pass through Ahbazon. Hek to Jita and you will pass through Rancer. These can be navigated while the pirates sleep or you can bypass these systems. Placing these systems on your avoid list might work for the safer routes but plan for a longer trip. Uedama is technically 0.5 high sec ( but the low end of it ) so you get a lot there from haulers attempts to bypass Ahbazon. I think the best way to know what is current in game, using the map cog in the upper left. I always have mine set to “Ships Destroyed in the Last Hour”. However you should know the “school systems” will always have high kills from PvP duels, new player losses, and the all too common player killing their alts for a high PvP rating. The hot spots appear in red and orange, mousing over them shows the number of ships lost in the last hour. I don’t know what is up with the extra decimal place in the security ratings, but I was not the originator of that list. I looked it up and the page hasn’t been touched for 2 years this December. Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![wildbill212](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wildbill212/32/434381_2.png) [@wildbill212](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/wildbill212)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/16 "2024-10-30T15:59:41Z")
I don’t have any map cog in the upper left, but I think you mean the star map you get when you press F10. I didn’t know there was an options like that. I now have mine set to “Militia Ships Destroyed in the Last Hour”. This is going to be a big help to see when there is gate camping. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/17 "2024-10-31T01:18:20Z")
How many players are willing to play that hard anymore? ---
**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/18 "2024-10-31T05:22:52Z")
@MB_ThePhotographer If you ask me I can say plenty. Interesting to know what data CCP have. Not like _only_ old generation play hardcore, not about age but taste and play style. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/19 "2024-11-01T03:48:22Z")
> [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](#): > > Interesting to know what data CCP have. They used to brag about it. Not a peep in over 15 yrs now? ---
**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077/20 "2024-11-01T03:53:19Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Not a peep in over 15 yrs now? Normal. Nothing to say keep mouth shut. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dangerous-systems-in-eve-online-for-casuals-players/466077.md?page=2)