# Dealing with suicide gankers

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 6, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259 "2020-01-06T22:25:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CoRrUpTiGe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corruptige/32/178725_2.png) [@CoRrUpTiGe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CoRrUpTiGe)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/109 "2020-01-08T22:19:00Z")

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I can say the same I guess. I tried. I think things are not moving in your direction…take heed.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/110 "2020-01-08T22:21:09Z")

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> [@CoRrUpTiGe](#):
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> think things are not moving in your direction…take heed.

Every carebear has said this in regards to suicide ganking.  
They’ve been saying this for over a decade.

It’s like some weird attempt to make a passing threat that never comes true.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/111 "2020-01-08T22:49:50Z")

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I like it that we regularly get fresh new Code haters on these forums. It is amusing that each one sincerely believes that non-consentual highsec PvP is cheating, somehow. Surely CCP couldn’t be so incompetent that they designed a game that would deliberately allow that. Gasp!

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/112 "2020-01-08T22:53:17Z")

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Well I guess you got us like all the other generic carebears over the years who came up with the very same misunderstanding. I guess the ban hammer will hit us any time now.

May I suggest you get a mining permit and follow the Code while you wait?

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**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/113 "2020-01-08T23:45:46Z")

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> [@CowRocket\_Void](#):
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> Keep the Hulks, Macks, Covts, Rets, for group ops

The only ship that can out-yield a Covetor is a Hulk (sans Rorq) and they are cheap AF. They pay for themselves almost immediately. If you are group-mining why doesn’t ur Orca have remote reps? It’s ridiculous to say that Skiff/Procurer is the only way to solo mine. CODE. isn’t THAT good. Zaenis is under 50% with 4 Catalysts. LOLOL!! Also he has admitted multiple times that CODE. doesn’t respect permits. Say hi to Mittens for me, Zaenis! o/

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/114 "2020-01-08T23:52:34Z")

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> [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#):
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> If you are group-mining why doesn’t ur Orca have remote reps?

Because it’s not enough, and the orca needs to target the ship under attack, which is not done before said ship is dead.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/115 "2020-01-09T06:17:22Z")

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> [@CoRrUpTiGe](#):
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> Is it possible to effectively counter suicide gankers in a mining situation

Buy a mining permit. Problem solved.

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**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/116 "2020-01-09T08:51:15Z")

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> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> You surey will win this years “I am retard trophy”

And it’s only january!

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/117 "2020-01-09T08:54:55Z")

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> [@Scoots\_Choco](#):
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> Why is it that carebears always talk like this?

You have a thing about throwing that word around, where did the carebear touch you? LOL.

> [@Scoots\_Choco](#):
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> Like, CODE. is such a tiny fraction of the entire EVE Online ecosystem, but to carebears, it’s literally the only thing that matters to them. I don’t understand it.

You are obviously a CODE fanboy.

CODE is close to dying anyway.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/118 "2020-01-09T08:58:26Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> You are obviously a CODE fanboy.

Obviously, right?

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> CODE is close to dying anyway.

[Citation needed] 😉

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/119 "2020-01-09T09:00:32Z")

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> [@Scoots\_Choco](#):
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> Obviously, right?

You only went after me as an AG player when there was three people one of which was CODE and the other a CODE fan boi that derailed your thread. So yes you are a CODE fanboy.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/120 "2020-01-09T09:02:17Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> So yes you are a CODE fanboy.

It’s so cute seeing highsec carebears like you flood their existence with CODE. The boogeyman wishes he could terrify children like you as much as CODE. can.

Still waiting on that citation for:

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> CODE is close to dying anyway.

But of course, you don’t have one since this is just an empty threat. 😉

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/121 "2020-01-09T09:02:43Z")

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> [@Scoots\_Choco](#):
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> It’s so cute seeing highsec carebears like you flood their existence with CODE. The boogeyman wishes he could terrify children like you as much as CODE. can.

Haha you don’t even know what a carebear is.

> [@Scoots\_Choco](#):
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> But of course, you don’t have one since this is just an empty threat. 😉

That was an observation you total dumbass

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/122 "2020-01-09T09:03:15Z")

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> [@Scoots\_Choco](#):
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> > [@CoRrUpTiGe](#):
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> > think things are not moving in your direction…take heed.
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> Every carebear has said this in regards to suicide ganking.  
> They’ve been saying this for over a decade.  
> It’s like some weird attempt to make a passing threat that never comes true.

Exactly the same mewling as happens with complaints about Cloaky Campers…

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/123 "2020-01-09T09:04:00Z")

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mmmm, yeah that’s fair. It’s an insult to carebears to group you in with them.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> That was an observation dumbass

Then it should be pretty easy to show some proof of that “observation”. (But again, you don’t have any)

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/124 "2020-01-09T09:05:13Z")

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> [@Scoots\_Choco](#):
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> mmmm, yeah that’s fair. It’s an insult to carebears to group you in with them.

You don’t know what a carebear is, you just throw it around to make yourself feel big and important, you ain’t.

> [@Scoots\_Choco](#):
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> Then it should be pretty easy to show some proof of that “observation”. (But again, you don’t have any)

It is an observation mate, are you stupid to not understand what that means?

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/125 "2020-01-09T09:06:03Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> It is an observation mate,

Again, please share some proof. What are you using to make this “observation”?  
Numbers on zkillboard? Total ganks? Are you just asking in local chat?

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/126 "2020-01-09T09:10:07Z")

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> [@Scoots\_Choco](#):
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> Numbers on zkillboard? Total ganks? Are you just asking in local chat?

You have a thing about Zkill, is that the only thing you look at?

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/127 "2020-01-09T09:11:27Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> is that the only thing you look at?

Still dodging the question I see.

Zkb is one of the tools I use. I’m guessing you have other tools you use other than zkb to make your “observation”?

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-with-suicide-gankers/210259/128 "2020-01-09T09:19:30Z")

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Think about it, as I was part of Legacy for a period of time I saw WinterCo, Skilurself and others collapse when attacking us. You are in Test, you should know this.

Not all collapses come from losses which you can work out from killboards, but events, key moments in wars, key people moving on from Eve and those left unable to pick up the slack. Sadly CODE are at this point just an alliance of individuals that don’t really work together, which is a pity. They are always going to be there as some people will continue to gank as it is easy and fun, but as an alliance they are pretty much dead…

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