# Dear CCP, I want to be a miner as a solo player, but it feels like the system is designed to punish me **URL:** \ **Category:** Mining & Extraction\ **Created:** [November 23, 2025, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546 "2025-11-23T09:22:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 3:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/147 "2025-12-26T03:44:31Z")
Meh, slop. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/148 "2025-12-26T14:51:10Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Try using the Tholos as a Covert Ops cloaked mining vessel. You won’t be able to mine a large amount, but instant cloaking and warping away will surely miff the gankers off. > > The Tholos is basically a versatile combat that ship that is able to mine, rat belts, raid ESS and run Data and Relic sites in Null. Simply take a mobile depot along and fit accordingly. What? The Tholos is about as ‘able’ to mine as any non-mining ship: not particularly good at it at all. It has no ore hold, no mining bonuses and is an awful miner. The ship is not versatile, it cannot raid ESS (destroyers aren’t allowed to enter) and has no bonuses for exploration sites either. Why are you sharing this kind of nonsense? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/149 "2025-12-26T15:25:05Z")
Its dryson. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/150 "2025-12-26T15:31:52Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Why are you sharing this kind of nonsense? lol, that question. Come on… don’t bite for that. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2025, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/151 "2025-12-27T12:15:45Z")
There is a correlation between the players who refuse to use dscan in highsec and players who hates and constantly complains about ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Jordan\_Kerns](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jordan_kerns/32/465999_2.png) [@Jordan\_Kerns](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jordan_Kerns)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2025, 4:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/152 "2025-12-29T04:49:25Z")
youtube - [chloroke](https://www.youtube.com/chloroken)n - A nomads tale This guy knows is stuff.. he multi boxes, however, a lot of the info he puts out is absolute gold for a soloboxer… he explains on how to “kite” dangerous rat fleets in a venture of all things and basic survival tactics that help you in worm holes ( so basically also null and low sec tactics) ---
**Author:** ![xReederx\_Ghost](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xreederx_ghost/32/486410_2.png) [@xReederx\_Ghost](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xReederx_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/153 "2025-12-30T10:59:00Z")
Are you drunk? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/154 "2025-12-30T13:34:15Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > There is a correlation between the players who refuse to use dscan in highsec and players who hates and constantly complains about ganking. There’s no reason to use Dscan to look for gankers. What are you going to do? Dock up anytime a destroyer enters the system? Just mark certain corporations red and that’s all you need to know. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/155 "2025-12-30T13:55:48Z")
How about ‘dscan any time an unknown name appears in local’ and ‘align any time you see a destroyer on dscan’ so you can instantly warp off when it warps to your grid? That way you can continue mining but still instantly get away once danger appears. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/156 "2025-12-30T14:23:47Z")
I’m always on the lookout for large fleets. If 5 destroyers enter my grid, I won’t dock. If ten do, I’d dock my Hulk, but not my Orca. If local jumps up from 5 (usual traffic) to 70, I’ll look into the possibility of docking the Orca (depending on the current cycle of my industrial core (it’s almost impossible to dock an Orca)). But no. I don’t use Dscan in High Sec. We have other tools. Setting ganking corps to red, knowing how many ships it would take to overcome the measures you’ve taken in anti-ganking, etc. If Local jumps up 4, there is no cause for concern. If it jumps up ten, be ready to dock up or instantly park inside the Orca… that sort of thing. ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/157 "2025-12-31T08:44:42Z")
If you play EVE [_Experientia Vulnerabilis Exsanguis_] like a one-armed-bandit in a tug-of-war, you’re going to get … **strung out**. ---
**Author:** ![Derlin\_Fishen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derlin_fishen/32/477895_2.png) [@Derlin\_Fishen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derlin_Fishen)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/158 "2026-01-03T05:03:51Z")
You can mine while aligned? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/159 "2026-01-03T07:53:17Z")
Not while properly aligned as you’ll soon be out of range of your rock. Being aligned requires 75% of max velocity in the direction of your destination. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/160 "2026-01-03T08:04:14Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Not while properly aligned Stop lying Glenduil you’ve already been told how to do it: > [@Gankers are Not Polite or Patient with Miners](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/281): > > First of all 75% velocity not max. and second you can use this to make it viable: Further reading: 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/161 "2026-01-03T08:14:46Z")
So? - Mining Laser range (Orca boosted: ~43km) - 80% max-speed of my aligned Hulk ~10m/s Starting at 43km below the rock, being aligned to a bookmark above the rock, gives me 86km to move before I get out of mining laser range. Thats 8.600 seconds or 143 minutes or 2.39 hours of perfectly aligned mining, being able to warp out the whole fleet within a single tick once _anything_ bad happens. Hint: People mining in HighSec simply don’t know how professionals operate. Else they wouldn’t mine in HighSec. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/162 "2026-01-03T08:45:57Z")
That would require that I go get a ship before hand and create bookmark after bookmark all over the field before mining since moving about with that equipped would be impossible. Besides, it’s not needed. There are other ways to protect a mining ship from being ganked without sacrificing what little momentum barges still have. Orcas are absolutely wonderful at their role as a support vessel. When properly utilized, you get all the protection you need. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/163 "2026-01-03T09:15:33Z")
> [@Derlin\_Fishen](#): > > You can mine while aligned? Yes, you can mine while aligned. Not indefinitely, but more than long enough while you spot dangerous ships on your dscan to warp out instantly when they arrive on your grid. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/164 "2026-01-03T09:24:00Z")
My alt does not yet have max skills in range. I’m working on it. The alt has a boosted range of 37km. A moon field is enormous. I apologize for not just mining Veldspar or Scordite. I only do moon mining these days. 37km will only get you a very small portion of the field. I recently installed a rig into my refinery to help minimize the space between rocks, but that only helps a little. Without that rig, 37km can actually only land you within range of 4 rocks before you have to move again. And aligning is not the only way to protect a Hulk. There are advantages to staying within 2500m of the Orca. You can store the ore inside the Orca which minimizes loss since the Orca is a fortress. You can store the Hulk inside the Orca which is instant and can be done even when targeted. And even without being in range, the Orca can provide massive shield boosts to the Hulk by way of command boosts, remote shield boosts, and drone bots and can even maintain a remote shield boost for several minutes before depleting the cap. There’s no need to sacrifice the Hulk’s movement with that rig or slow boat around trying to maximize align time. I have enough to do already by managing drones, moving and compressing ore, and planning my next mining location once these 3 rocks are done. It’s why I’ve maxed out my shield, shield emission, and capacitor skills. I found this: it is a post about how OP it is to escape combat by docking inside another ship: > [@It should not be possible to avoid ship loss in combat by storing your ship in a bowhead](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065): > > see reddit. pirat got their ass handed to them and took the cowards way out by storing their ships in neutral bowheads to reduce their losses. they were aggressed, and scrambled. it is broken that a player in combat can store their ship in a neutral bowhead to escape their loss. you should not be able to escape any kind of combat by storing your ship in a neutral bowhead. using this to escape war losses is a joke. it is made worse by the fact that the players abusing can afford to take those l… ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/165 "2026-01-03T11:03:32Z")
A lot of text to hide that you don’t have a clue about mining efficiently. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546/166 "2026-01-03T11:41:30Z")
Because I don’t align? There’s nothing efficient about slowboating a Hulk back and forth around a rock. The hold is too small even for compression. But then, you don’t know anything about inventory management do you? You think it’s efficient to warp to station when your hold is full of compressed ore, empty the hold, return to the rock, and continue mining? No. It’s far more efficient to move the ore to the Orca by staying within 2.5km. That way, a Hulk can do continuous mining with drones for hours without a single trip to the station. No mining is more efficient than continuous mining. Slow boating around trying to align to a station while giving up the advantages of staying at the side of the Orca is stupid. Even if the enemy gets the pod, you’ve protected the ore and the Hulk and lost nothing. In the worst case scenario, you lose the Hulk, but never the ore. Aligning, you lose the ore and the Hulk in the worst case. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp-i-want-to-be-a-miner-as-a-solo-player-but-it-feels-like-the-system-is-designed-to-punish-me/501546.md?page=9)