# Dear Gankers of Miner High Security Space **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Tags:** pve, high-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [November 17, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385 "2024-11-17T20:22:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/41 "2024-11-18T23:33:28Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > Safety Mob šŸ¤” šŸ¤­ šŸ˜‡ ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/42 "2024-11-18T23:34:01Z")
I tried to sneak that one in, busted. ---
**Author:** ![Davidius\_Pratticus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/davidius_pratticus/32/478437_2.png) [@Davidius\_Pratticus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Davidius_Pratticus)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/43 "2024-11-19T00:29:59Z")
Many mining corps have rules in place that actually discourage chatting in local to try and prevent diplomatic incidents from hurting their business interests. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/44 "2024-11-19T00:33:26Z")
Is there a mining channel that Frostpacker is not banned from? How do you communicate with other mining Corps? ---
**Author:** ![Davidius\_Pratticus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/davidius_pratticus/32/478437_2.png) [@Davidius\_Pratticus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Davidius_Pratticus)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/45 "2024-11-19T00:47:52Z")
Generally speaking, most mining fleets will DM non-corp miners in the belt if they want to invite them to fleet and then use fleet channel. Intercorp coordination is usually done through 3rd party comm programs. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/46 "2024-11-19T01:06:18Z")
> [@Davidius\_Pratticus](#): > > Many mining corps have rules in place that actually discourage chatting in local Thanks for pointing that out, Davidius. Local was a far more chatty place in times gone by than it is these days. I think people have generally become less inclined to use the feature. I used to frequent the Tekaima system, in Highsec. There were then several very active mining corps. I presume they used their Corp Chat for some stuff, but they often interacted in Local. All gone, now. I recall a couple of instances where, following a gank, the miner went bananas in Local and made threats which were certainly reportable. We did report them; not to CCP, but to their CEO, who took appropriate action. Unreliable Corp members can be a problem for a well-run organisation. You donā€™t want them around, if you can help it! ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/47 "2024-11-19T01:28:23Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > Is there a ~~mining~~ channel that Frostpacker is not banned from? FTFY šŸ˜‰ šŸ˜Š ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/48 "2024-11-19T20:50:32Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > That is correct, yet there had been no released documentation showing any amendments to the _HALAIMA CODE OF CONDUCT._ There are 8 years of documented amendments to The Code you can read here: [http://www.minerbumping.com/](http://www.minerbumping.com/) Make sure to read them all, and embrace the spirit of The Code. Also if in doubt you can always ask your local New Order Agent for advice. We are here to help. > [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > You know it easy to turn a blind eye and look the other way when a Ganker targeted a miner without fair warning. It is obviously possible that there are still miners out there who do not know about The Code and their obligations when operating in New Order territory. But fear not, we are a compassionate people and reach out to this lost souls. Years of research in the field has shown that it is not the verbal communication but a fair dose of anti-matter applied directly to the mining vessel that yields the greatest success in bringing attention to the reality of The Code and spark the curiosity of the miner to investigate about their duty to the land (and acquiring a mining permit). So all is well. What you perceive as unjust violence is in fact compassion and efficiency. We do not expect the common miner like you to understand all the details, we know your reasoning skills are limited, hence we offer our leadership services, as you are clearly in dire need of them. Just comply for a better Highsec for all of us. Thank you. Praise James 315, Saviour and democratically elected ruler of Highsec, Supreme leader of the New Order. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/49 "2024-11-19T23:31:32Z")
Currently the spokesman for Frostpacker and would like to mention that Iā€™ve taken the HALAIMA CODE of Conduct very seriously and will also take action against any New Order Safety Agent who falls to follow the rules etc. Frostpacker had paid in full on many occasions before conducting large scale mining operations in New Eden. We have a right to start claiming citizenship within the boundaries of their control. We also have a right to pull them aside when the Safety Officer steps out of line. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/50 "2024-11-20T07:22:55Z")
Calm down and always remember your place miner ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/51 "2024-11-20T08:33:19Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > remember your place miner Heā€™s just salty that both Aiko and Zaera blocked him for misbehavior despite he pumped like a trillion total ISK to mining permit purchases (and some other odd items like bath water and corpses for example). šŸ§ šŸ¤­ ---
**Author:** ![Spring\_Sky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spring_sky/32/447439_2.png) [@Spring\_Sky](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spring_Sky)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/52 "2024-11-20T11:43:57Z")
He could have been a great Agent. What a waste. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/53 "2024-11-20T12:49:41Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Heā€™s just salty that both Aiko and Zaera Heā€™s been blocked by more than thatā€¦ And nothing of value was lost. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/54 "2024-11-20T23:44:39Z")
I agree. Some of the gankers here are just not worth speaking to anymore. Although, I did meet some pleasant ones tonight. Iā€™ll have to patch up a few bullet holes in my Skiff, but thatā€™s okay. They were very polite and there to have fun. They made my night exciting > [@Spring\_Sky](#): > > Nothing is more pure then a Ganker, they are unabashedly unafraid of there truth to shoot your ship. > > Miners are a nefarious lot, and while not all miners are bad the higher up you go the more you see these behaviors. Except that it doesnā€™t always go the way of the Ganker, does it? The only truth is that someone has to lose. Itā€™s the nature of the business. Itā€™s the Smugglerā€™s Blues. [Catalyst, Catalyst] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Initiated Compact Warp Scrambler F-90 Compact Sensor Booster Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I Scan Resolution Script x1 Void S x592 I won the day. Thatā€™s a bit of an overkill on the fit though. Cuts into the profits when you lose. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/55 "2024-11-21T00:43:03Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Thatā€™s a bit of an overkill on the fit though. Itā€™s a standard T2 fit. There is sometimes variation in the rigs (I mostly use a Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I with just the Burst Aerator) but itā€™s not terribly expensive. If youā€™re ganking for fun (as your encounter seems to indicate), then the cost is immaterial. You can get away with a T1 fit if you have enough hulls to bring to the gank, but solo players like me with few Omega accounts rather rely on T2. As I wrote, itā€™s all factored in and, of course, sometimes you get lucky with the drops and recover some of your modules, in addition to whatever the target drops! Ganks fail. Itā€™s not the end of the world. I hope Iā€™m as polite as the folks you met, though understandably not every target will respond with a virtual shrug of the shoulders and a ā€˜Thatā€™s Life!ā€™. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/56 "2024-11-21T00:47:59Z")
Yeah. I did laugh and gloat a bit, but then, they did try and cost me money. I then thanked the leader for the fun. Of course, I did head out there for that. I knew what was going on in local- itā€™s why I grabbed my Skiff and headed over to them. Though, now I suppose itā€™s time to use a jump clone and relocate. Safety isnā€™t a group to let slights go and Iā€™m sure theyā€™ll return in greater numbers just to make a point. Iā€™ve got a new destination in mind and thanks to jump clones, there will be no trail to follow. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/7/8/8783e03ef121a3de5202e3e36ae81b014138cb10.jpeg "Wherever I May Roam (Remastered)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-cEyiM9adE) ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/57 "2024-11-21T05:16:48Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > Itā€™s a standard T2 fit Fleet fit thank you, please use correct references with your ganker doctrine. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/58 "2024-11-21T05:39:31Z")
Dear Gankers of Miner High Security Space, be it hereby known that one Iceacid Frostpacker has purchased a mining permit, effective immediately. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/e/5/0e5d766c46140b05a7a5a3ca08042f32775f9967.png) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/f/2/3f2ba3622d960f68fe0495ffb104c3b09d84ebca.png) ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/59 "2024-11-21T06:04:06Z")
Yeahā€¦ ah about that permit, it was passed around Frostpacker and we had to make a few changes. please find below the forllowing; > **documented amendment** > > ![mining-permit](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/1/f/11f12c1f88ff3d1c10e4975ed198dd3b3ec708c6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/60 "2024-11-21T06:36:45Z")
Permit is revoked for illegal modification. Another Frostpacker blocked, goodbye. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385.md?page=4)