# Dear Gankers of Miner High Security Space

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Tags:** pve, high-sec, pvp\
**Created:** [November 17, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385 "2024-11-17T20:22:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Good\_Girl\_Kara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/good_girl_kara/32/494832_2.png) [@Good\_Girl\_Kara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Good_Girl_Kara)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/81 "2024-11-23T22:53:39Z")

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It’s so weird when people complain about ganking. Losing a ship to a gank is always a skill issue. I, for an example, has never lost a ship to some gankers.

If you can’t figure out a way to stay safe in highsec, I pity you. Like for real, just go buy a permit and be safe and happy 🙄

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/82 "2024-11-23T22:58:55Z")

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> [@Good\_Girl\_Kara](#):
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> Like for real, just go buy a permit and be safe and happy 🙄

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/9/1/991e391bde02ae7060b78224270506b9a26274ed.jpeg "Not to worry i have a permit") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq6nBigMnlg)

And the best part is that this permit was absolutely free and never expires!

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/83 "2024-11-24T05:33:07Z")

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> [@Good\_Girl\_Kara](#):
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> It’s so weird when people complain about ganking. Losing a ship to a gank is always a skill issue. I, for an example, has never lost a ship to some gankers.

Very good point and we as a group try to point out the methods that can allow a pilot to slip away from being ganked @ [Jamelie Aldrin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jamelie_Aldrin)

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/84 "2024-11-24T06:37:23Z")

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> [@Good\_Girl\_Kara](#):
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> Losing a ship to a gank is always a skill issue.

I thought it was caused by a lack of paying attention and actually playing the game as opposed to alt-tabbing and watching netflix and/or youtube.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/85 "2024-11-24T10:15:32Z")

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Praise Princess Aiko

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**Author:** ![Alyx\_Meyers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alyx_meyers/32/440532_2.png) [@Alyx\_Meyers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alyx_Meyers)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/86 "2024-11-24T13:37:47Z")

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Word salad the whole thread. I wish I saved my time and avoided scrolling through it. Miner bad, Ganker bad, PVP bad yadda yadda. Is this a characteristic of all your posts @Chad_Frostpacker ?

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/87 "2024-11-24T13:52:59Z")

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> [@Alyx\_Meyers](#):
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> Word salad the whole thread. I wish I saved my time and avoided scrolling through it. Miner bad, Ganker bad, PVP bad yadda yadda. Is this a characteristic of all your posts @Chad_Frostpacker ?

🤭

Maybe you should demand compensation for your time wasted on scrolling through this thread, 1 bil ISK perhaps? 🤔

😊

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/88 "2024-11-24T16:15:25Z")

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> [@Zaenis\_Desef](#):
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> Seriously guys. Stop being immoral by blowing up space ships in a video game about blowing up space ships. HAVE SOME RESPECT, THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!

I think you are heartless to not consider the severe psychological trauma that comes from losing two pence worth of free Venture. I mean, undocking in a Venture is already scarier than wingsuit jumping off the north face of the Eiger. It takes immense courage and years of dedication and skill just to hit the ‘Undock’ button…let alone to hit ‘Warp to asteroid belt 10’. And you are denigrating the sheer talent involved in binge watching Home & Away on Netflix whilst looking at Eve every half hour.

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**Author:** ![Alyx\_Meyers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alyx_meyers/32/440532_2.png) [@Alyx\_Meyers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alyx_Meyers)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/89 "2024-11-24T16:23:41Z")

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Frostpacker is welcome to compensate me, but I fear he will keep wasting everyone’s time.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/90 "2024-11-24T20:09:35Z")

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> [@Alyx\_Meyers](#):
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> Word salad the whole thread. I wish I saved my time and avoided scrolling through it. Miner bad, Ganker bad, PVP bad yadda yadda.

Exactly! 100% If it weren’t for miners crying, “Gankers are bad!” and gankers crying, “Miners are bad!” These forums would have maybe 1 new thread a week… or less.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/91 "2024-11-24T20:49:57Z")

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Thanks a lot Uriel!  
Had to _eduted_ that thread reply

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/92 "2024-11-30T04:31:07Z")

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If you fail to understand the message that is being directed towards the highsec gankers then you will realise there is zero word salad.

Only your misinterpretation of the message!

PS the evening is young yet Frostpacker has begun.

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**Author:** ![Annalisa\_Marie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annalisa_marie/32/443766_2.png) [@Annalisa\_Marie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annalisa_Marie)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/93 "2024-12-11T08:34:21Z")

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> [@Spring\_Sky](#):
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> The miner looks on at the competitors Orca with disdain, so he hires gankers to shoot the ship as he is incapable of doing the deed on his own.

This is 100% true. As a merc, numerous miners have requested the ganking of a fellow miner, then pretended that they are on their side and smeared the very mercs and/or gankers that did the deed for them for isk. I have experience extremely toxic, threatening, and outright offensive verbal assaults from those who claim to be peaceful. The difference is, gankers don’t pretend to be something else (RP is not what I mean). You know what to expect from them without ulterior motives. A ganker, ganks.

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> I thought it was caused by a lack of paying attention and actually playing the game as opposed to alt-tabbing and watching netflix and/or youtube.

It’s both.

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**Author:** ![Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_rose_ivory/32/515700_2.png) [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Rose_Ivory)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/94 "2024-12-15T01:33:41Z")

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Looking at the video Creed vs 308, I am most curious about the story behind the cardboard they used as a target. If you examine it closer, you can see it was use to spray can a rifle.

 ![frame1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/2/c/02c88681279176db723f7542200d54091001d858.jpeg)

But who sprays their own barefoot in the process? I am thinking one of these 2 gentlemen have black paint on their left foot. I work with spray paint in arts and crafts projects and I can’t say that I am not a victim of over spray. But as a rule, I never paint in the nude.

@Chad_Frostpacker pirates will be pirates, there aren’t any rules you know. Watch your six.

Have fun!

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/95 "2024-12-15T05:27:49Z")

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Pirates are more likely to spray paint their feet.

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**Author:** ![Shikoku\_Hiroswa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shikoku_hiroswa/32/443936_2.png) [@Shikoku\_Hiroswa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shikoku_Hiroswa)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/96 "2024-12-15T10:13:56Z")

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Good morning, Chad 😊

> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#):
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> some of the stuff you said about miners in New Eden and on the forums had sounded just unacceptable

They are just words, sir. I read something a while ago that says “Sticks and Stones May Break my Bones but Words will Never Hurt me” I really like that attitude ☺

> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#):
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> it could now even become a Highsec violation to keep trying to gank miners without first tryng to give enough warning

That is a funny idea 😆

> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#):
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> I am not joking or roleplaying with anyone of you no more

You like to roleplay? That is very nice 😊 I like to cosplay. Have you ever cosplayed?

> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#):
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> to try and extract hard earned isk

I would not call it “hard earned”, sir. Pushing a mouse and hitting buttons is easy.  
This is hard earned:

 ![1000003828](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/4/1/54160ded86bdc1f23474b08b5b70fc0f75f61227.jpeg)

> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#):
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> No Ganking Monday

🤣

> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#):
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> just stop with the harassments about buying a permit

Miners have to buy permit? It’s in the game?

> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#):
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> perhaps you gankers should practice shooting at each other and leave us alone

Pirates don’t shoot at each other, it is against The Code. Jack Sparrow would never approve.

> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#):
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> Lazy Mining Monday

🤣 You are funny, sir.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/97 "2024-12-15T10:28:25Z")

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Strongly suggest that you should stick to what you’re good at!

/ do you really gunk first or afterwards?

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**Author:** ![Shikoku\_Hiroswa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shikoku_hiroswa/32/443936_2.png) [@Shikoku\_Hiroswa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shikoku_Hiroswa)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/98 "2024-12-15T10:45:39Z")

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> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#):
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> Strongly suggest that you should stick to what you’re good at!

That is always good advice, sir. 😊  
I am good at sewing, cooking, singing, crochet, coloring books, cash register, customer service, cosplay and kissing.  
What about you, sir? What are you good at that you should stick to?

> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#):
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> gunk first or afterwards?

What is gunk?

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It won’t even wait a minute before showing the edit number??  
Something wrong with this forum.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/99 "2024-12-15T11:14:43Z")

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> [@Shikoku\_Hiroswa](#):
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> What about you, sir? What are you good at that you should stick to?

I’m just trying to be a better pilot to fly a ship to Zarzakh.

I am also struggling to find my way out of living in hiighsec even with other pilots who have opened the door.

I am afraid to completely leave highsec and keep finding excuses to stay by creating topics that would only make my stay in highsec more enjoyable.

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**Author:** ![Shikoku\_Hiroswa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shikoku_hiroswa/32/443936_2.png) [@Shikoku\_Hiroswa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shikoku_Hiroswa)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-gankers-of-miner-high-security-space/468385/100 "2024-12-15T11:26:22Z")

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@Chad_Frostpacker That has to be tough, sir. I understand perfectly.  
I have been trying to be an adult for almost 10 years now so that I can have my own house but I keep finding excuses to stay at my father’s. I mean, if I leave who is going to take care of him?  
I am afraid to go out there a be a professional person and have all those responsibilities that I may let a lot of people down. I have already let two boyfriends down because I will not leave my dad’s house but one became verbally abusive and the other slapped me so I don’t feel so bad about letting them go.  
I think I will wait until my dad goes to heaven and then I can stay in the house anyway and find a full time job. This part-time is ok for now but I will need something better when my dad goes.

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