# Dear RolePlayers, what's going on in our fictional, player driven continuum?

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**Created:** [November 21, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052 "2020-11-21T18:09:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/1 "2020-11-21T18:09:04Z")

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@Elsebeth_Rhiannon  
@Rana_Ash

I don’t know who else to ask! 😃

I don’t know if this thread breaks any rules,  
but I’d say the information is useful for someone else as well.

There’s this _fictional continuum_ out there and all most people ever get to see …  
… assuming they actually care to check it out …  
… is what’s going on in the IGS subforum.

Hell, I sure as ■■■■ can’t be the only one who doesn’t know what’s going on out there in space.

I’ve considered posting in IGS, but I can’t come up with anything good and I didn’t want to feel disruptive.  
I don’t even know if that makes any sense from an IGS-point-of-view, but hey. vOv

I don’t even want to post in your meta subforum.  
It feels _wrong_ on pretty much every level, so I’m not going to make that mistake.

I’m not familiar with your scene or communities _at all_ …  
… and I know that nothing good\*\* ultimately results from me taking a step into your area of content …

… soooooo …

Who are the go-to groups to blue and have eyes/ears in?  
Who are assholes I need to be careful with?  
Who can/should I request mutual blue with?

Who is the most driving force for either side?  
What the hell is Xenuria doing?  
Who’s ass do I need to kick to make an impression?

There’s tons of people out there who have _no_ idea about the fictional, player driven drama out there …  
… and they’d not even touch the IGS with a _stick_ to see if it’s _dead_.

They’re also boring the ■■■■■■■ hell out of me for constantly bickering about the uselessness of it all …  
… while I’m having a ■■■■■■■ blast!

So …

… please …

Tell!  
Me!  
Everything!

As a token of appreciation and gratitude …  
… I’m not going to send Solecist to the IGS!

Thanks a ton for your help! 😃

* * *

\*_(that’s a serious understatement. Last time someone said to me “What’s the worst that can happen?” it were the words of a former\*\* friend of mine, who believed his daily backups would make everything I could do to his server trivial to revert. It took him three days to fix what took me five minutes to cause. It’s a serious talent! : - )_

_\*\*\*(totally unrelated reasons. really… )_

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**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/2 "2020-11-21T18:18:00Z")

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There’s been a few times that one of the fiction posts intrigued me enough that I almost asked if someone could explain what was going on in plain English. But ultimately I would always decide that I’d rather argue with strangers over real disagreements, than argue with strangers over fake disagreements.

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/3/638297cd26b6a22905a88f50c7d4bfe8c0e2bced.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/3 "2020-11-21T18:19:49Z")

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> [@So you want to get into roleplay?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-get-into-roleplay/135688):
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> Here are some points I made up on the fly elsewhere for people wanting to get into EVE RP but not knowing how to start. These are not hard and fast rules, more like things that have worked for other people. (EDIT: This has been edited a lot since the first post based on feedback. Further suggestions welcome! You can find me eg [on the RIP Discord](https://discord.gg/fUJRaAf).) So how does one get into RP? If you already have RPing friends, ask them how to get involved with whatever they are up to. If you do not, find some…

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/4 "2020-11-21T18:21:46Z")

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I don’t want to get into roleplay.  
_You_ don’t want that I get into roleplay. 😊

This isn’t what I’m asking for.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/5 "2020-11-21T18:26:36Z")

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Then I have no idea what you _are_ asking. In EVE, there’s zero reason to care if someone’s a RPer or a lore-oriented player if you are not into RP or the storylines yourself. If you’re not, story-oriented players are just players, and you meet them or not just the same you do any player: because they are in your region of space, build or shoot things that are interesting to you, or otherwise create content you care about.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/6 "2020-11-21T18:27:24Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> Who are the go-to groups to blue and have eyes/ears in?  
> Who are assholes I need to be careful with?  
> Who can/should I request mutual blue with?
> 
> Who is the most driving force for either side?  
> What the hell is Xenuria doing?  
> Who’s ass do I need to kick to make an impression?
> 
> There’s tons of people out there who have _no_ idea about the fictional, player driven drama out there …  
> … and they’d not even touch the IGS with a _stick_ to see if it’s _dead_.
> 
> They’re also boring the ■■■■■■■ hell out of me for constantly bickering about the uselessness of it all …  
> … while I’m having a ■■■■■■■ blast!
> 
> So …
> 
> … please …
> 
> Tell!  
> Me!  
> Everything!

I think this is what Sol wants.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/7 "2020-11-21T18:30:41Z")

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> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> In EVE, there’s zero reason to care if someone’s a RPer or a lore-oriented player if you are not into RP or the storylines yourself.

Why are you telling me what I’m interested in, or care about?

I think it’s pretty clear what I’m asking for.  
It’d be like asking you about your (characters) current doings.  
How the alliance is doing, how the minmatar are doing, your current relations and activities regarding triglavians, etc. etc.

Maybe there’s someone else I should ask?  
I don’t know who else to ask. 🙂

I simply want to know what’s going on …  
… in regards to triglavians and what the people RPing around it are doing …  
… and the more I get to learn, the better.

> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#):
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> I think this is what Sol wants.

Yeah, it’s not actually rocket science … I think.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/8 "2020-11-21T18:46:39Z")

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Those are big questions. “I don’t want to be involved but I want you to explain to me everything going on between tens of alliances and player-groups with complex histories and relationships.”

I’d love to help but I have no idea where to even start. I cannot explain “everything”.

> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> Who are the go-to groups to blue and have eyes/ears in?  
> Who can/should I request mutual blue with?

This depends on what you want to achieve. Are you a protrig kybernaut? A Federation loyalist? A Sansha subversive? A Sani Sabik on a crusader to convince the cluster #notallsani? A nullsec warlord on a quest of revenge after a perceived betrayal?

> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> Who are assholes I need to be careful with?

I could make you a list, but then again multiple people would probably put me on their lists, so, I will just say, make up your own mind on that one. Play with people you enjoy playing with.

> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> Who is the most driving force for either side?

What’s “side” here? What’s “driving force”? There are tens of RP organizations, if we count everyone who does things for story-motivated reasons and is not ashamed to admit they enjoy pretending to be a pixelated spaceship pilot in the far future. (There was a list here but I edited it out because I am pretty sure I forgot someone who will murder me for it.)

A lot of RPers are not in an RP organization though. The main upside of EVE as an RP game is that almost anything that happens in the game happens in-universe. The nullsec war can be RPed about. Hisec gankers can be RPed about. That asshole who wardecced an indy corp just in the hopes of easy kills and got their war HQ dunked by the indy’s allies can be RPed about, and it does not matter if the people in question think they are RPers or not.

> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> What the hell is Xenuria doing?

Who cares?

> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> Who’s ass do I need to kick to make an impression?

It’s not really who, it’s how.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/9 "2020-11-21T18:50:06Z")

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I’m a Princess. I come from Agil. I like spiced wine.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/10 "2020-11-21T18:52:59Z")

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I ran out of Likes …  
… but I’ll give you one when they’re stocked up again.

> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> The main upside of EVE as an RP game is that almost anything that happens in the game happens in-universe.

We used to say “Everyone’s a roleplayer in EVE”. Good times. 🙂

…

Aaaand you’ve removed the list before I copied it. -.-

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/11 "2020-11-21T21:15:45Z")

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This post is just as confusing as all the IGS posts.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/12 "2020-11-21T21:17:43Z")

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Thanks… I guess.

It’s hard getting any good information without really digging into it …  
… and that’s rather time-consuming, because all the available information is spread out in hundreds of posts.

The only alternative is being a part of it …  
… which is in no way or form any less time-consuming.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/13 "2020-11-21T21:25:28Z")

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I don’t think you can be part of it. It seems like a private club to me.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/14 "2020-11-21T21:29:05Z")

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I know. It’s quite odd.

In most of reality these people aren’t really much different to the rest of us.  
They’re just taking their game even more seriously than we do.

They’re like … turbo nerds.

In the end, if you stick to “everyone’s a role player in EVE” then there’s not actually much difference to every-day playing.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/15 "2020-11-21T21:31:09Z")

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Uh . . . maybe.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/16 "2020-11-21T21:35:31Z")

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I always thought that you …  
… with these big black glasses you’ve had on the portrait …  
… could roleplay as a human/bee genetic freak or something …

😊

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**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/17 "2020-11-21T21:37:26Z")

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If so, I will do so on the fiction subforum, not the IGS.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/18 "2020-11-21T21:38:40Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> It’s hard getting any good information without really digging into it …

Welcome to EVE. 😉 17 years of shared history on a single shard makes for a really complex, living-world game, which is great, and one of the main appeals of EVE. On the other hand, it makes some thing hard to get and get into. It’s not really an RP phenomeno tho, it’s just EVE, and RP in EVE not being really simpler than the game itself.

Like in EVE in general, there’s no “the story” on the IGS. There’s like ten or fifty stories going on at the same time and overlapping. Someone who was an ally last year can be an invader today and politics makes strange bedfellows.

Are there specific story things on the IGS or elsewhere you are curious about?

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**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/19 "2020-11-21T21:54:51Z")

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> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> Are there specific story things on the IGS or elsewhere you are curious about?

I’ll have to dig into that first … 😁

Things were much easier when Diana Kim was the highlight of the IGS …  
… or maybe that never even happened and I was just a fanboy of her catchphrase.

Anyhow …

If you could tell me what’s going on in context of EDENCOM vs. Triglavians …  
… if there’s a war going on, properly organized groups, propaganda, anything …

… that’d be great. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Heiwari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/heiwari/32/489692_2.png) [@Heiwari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Heiwari)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-roleplayers-whats-going-on-in-our-fictional-player-driven-continuum/281052/20 "2020-11-22T01:01:52Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> I’ve considered posting in IGS, but I can’t come up with anything good and I didn’t want to feel disruptive.  
> I don’t even know if that makes any sense from an IGS-point-of-view, but hey. vOv

When in doubt, blame “capsuleer dementia,” which is described in Eve Source.

> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> Hell, I sure as ■■■■ can’t be the only one who doesn’t know what’s going on out there in space.

Regarding the Caldari, there appears to be a tectonic shift occurring, spurred by recent World News articles and player collaborative fiction. While the Megas have realigned from the old paradigms (Patriot/Practical/Liberal) into their present marriages of convenience (PKN/TNR/JSL), it’s unclear as yet whose hand(s) pushed the lever that caused the miserable condition of the Navy’s performance during the invasion. Laying blame, then, has become the sport du jour, with a few player philosophies seeking to argue for major reforms in the State, though each according to their own vision. But… volatility is an opportunity for profit, is it not?

Hope you enjoy reading in the weeks to come.

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